[George]

Dear All:

I present a first issue 1906 Navy Luger altered in a way I have not seen before. The GESICHERT in lower position has been filled in and not milled out. I neglected to take a picture of GESICHERT in upper position(SORRY) but it is hand stamped in.

Side plate does not match as well as safety lever has no number stamped

I would guess that the safety lever was replaced when changing the safety position thus not matching.

For $1850.00 it may be a keeper. Your thoughts would be much appreciated.

Regards,

George




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[Pete E.]

Hi George,

I understand there were several ways to alter the 1st. Issued M1906 Navy luger...welding up was one.

I noticed your grip safety does not seem to be sprung back to its full rearward position. Is your grip saety spring weak or possibly broken...? Or is it just the angle of your photo...?

 

[George]

Dear Pete:

Good eyes my friend! As I put the Navy Luger into the case after field stripping it and taking pictures I noticed the same thing. After removing the left grip and slipping the grip safety back under the spring everything was back to normal. I was kinda nervous handling this Navy Luger as the owner was watching every move I made!

Regards,

George

 

[Ron Wood]

No number on the safety lever is OK. The mis-match on the side plate is not. My '06 Altered has been filled in and not milled out just like yours. My serial number is 513a, is that anywhere close to this one? At $1850 I would think it is a keeper. Looks like a very nice example.

 

[George]

Dear Ron:

Many thanks for the kind words! This miss-matched side plate really has me second guessing the purchase!

Regards,

George

 

[Heinz]

George, Can you tell if this alteration involved lilling in with weld or milling of the entire area as opposed to a slot? Also is the Gesichert in all uppercase letters of the same size, All uppercase with with a Larger G, Or an Uppercase G and lower case for the rest of the letters.

I am building a datbase on altered navies. (although a recent computer crash and a move has sent me scrambling for the data). There are some photos posted in a thread on this website under Navy Lugers. At this point it looks like anything goes on alterations, including pantographed Gesicherts, grinding off the old, the rather neat milling slot, filling in with weld, a crude scraping off. Once I get a couple of hundred in the data we may know something.

Thanks for your help. I will repost the current data as soon as I get it back together.

 

[George]

Dear Heinz:

I kick myself for not taking a picture of the safety in the lower position. the GESICHERT in the lower position has just been filled in. A slot was not milled out as seen in most altered Navy's. In the picture I attached you can see where it was filled in.

The GESICHERT in upper area looks like they used a stamped and stamped in the GESICHERT and this word looks crudely done and much longer that original.

I would guess that the safety was replaced when altered thus not matching. I am at a loss as to why the side plate is not matching.

Regards,

George

 

[George]

Hey Ron:

Serial number in this 1906 Navy is 4086, please see attached picture.

I noticed that this Luger does not have the last two numbers on safety lever. I looked at my other 1906 Navy first issue unaltered and it also has a unmarked safety. Were all the Navy's safety unmarked?

Also the hold open on both Navy's are unmarked as well. Firing pin was unmarked as well.

Anyone with a 1906 Navy I would appreciate hearing from you in this regard. Thanks in advance for helping me out.

Regards,

George

PS It's nice to know who you are dealing with so I have attached a picture before I got my teeth fixed.



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[Heinz]

George, If you look closely does it appear the Gesichert may have been stamped one letter at a time? All in the same sized upper case letters?

Thanks