[lugerlou]

Pictures of a reblued 1910 regiment marked luger, this one has a hole drilled in front of trigger and is marked 4.U.1.10. 4th Ulanen, Eskadron # 1 waffe # 10 serial number 3197 ( d )

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This one has a unrelieved sear and a holdopen has been added.

 

[keoki7]

Another nice Ulan marked Luger. I wonder what the hell was going on with the hole.

 

[Edward Tinker]

I lighted the picture up a bit, dark, it seemed like a small hole, lightended, holy #$^&!

ed


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[garfield]

The guy that drilled the hole in the trigger guard is, no doubt, the same fellow who drilled the holes in the knobs on the takedown lever on those two or three pistols that recently came in from the combloc countries.

 

[Vlim]

quote:Originally posted by garfield

The guy that drilled the hole in the trigger guard is, no doubt, the same fellow who drilled the holes in the knobs on the takedown lever on those two or three pistols that recently came in from the combloc countries.

Very funny, you should start your own show.

Now, while I can't think of any decent reason for someone drilling a hole there, I did find a reference to drilled-through takedown levers. Someone even tried to patent it. The even funnier bit: The original patent appears to be missing.

Goertz, 'Die Pistole 08', revised edition, aptly placed in the 'useful and useless' chapter:

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[Edward Tinker]

What was the reason to drill the hole on the takedown levers?

 

[garfield]

quote:Originally posted by Vlim

Very funny, you should start your own show.

Do I detect a note of sarcasim here?

 

[lugerlou]

fellas

I will post more on the 1910 when I get home,could only take three out of lockup and had to leave quick so you only got a few quick snaps.

Re the hole, do not know why someone would do that much less reblue the luger but who knows, will be a nice project to restore someday.

Picked it up as it was a early ulanen regiment mark and did not cost a bundle.

Ed thanks for lightening up the picture, one day it would be nice to become good at microsofts photo editor

 

[Vlim]

Ed,

The patented version appears to be some form of sideplate locking device. As for the reason? I really don't know. I tried to acquire a copy of the complete patent but all I got was a 'no longer available' answer from the German patent office.

 

[Ron Smith]

I'm reviving this post, because I think I may have solved the hole in the trigger guard mystery.

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Someone brought this to my attention on ebay about a month ago. Curious as to what it could be for. I instantly remembered Lugerlou's post about the hole in the trigger guard of the 1910. I beleive this a pistol lock used to secure a pistol to an armory rack. It has a reciprocating double hasp. It slides from one end to the other.

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The shank of the hasp is approximately 1/4" in diameter. Just about the same size as the hole in the Luger trigger guard.

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The body of the lock has what appears to be a styleized Luger stamped in it. With the Large block 74, a V in a circle, and "HEN TA" below. The style of the marks appears to be Finnish or Scandinavian, but I suppose, could be German. The lock would be applied by slipping the hasp through the hole in the trigger guard. Easy access would mandate that the Luger be stored upside down. Which is a commom method of storing handguns in an armory. And then hooked around a securing device of some kind, maybe a rod secured to a rack.

Anybody want to dive in with different ideas or comments. Feel free! Ron

 

[lugerlou]

Ron

Interesting concept but one has to wonder why this is the only luger with a hole in the trigger guard that has been posted on this forum, at least to my knowledge anyways.

The hole was drilled before the reblue as the sides of the hole are blued same as the pistol.

Maybe their is more out in circulation but I have not seen them and usually buy just about every early luger that crosses my path.

We will have to wait and see what other replies come forth.

 

[garfield]

Why go through all this bother when, assuming that one wishes to secure a "rack" of lugers, all that would have to be done is run a cable/chain through the trigger guard.

Seems that this would be a classic example of anal-retentivness.

 

[Heinrich]

Vlim,
This device was not patented. It was protected only as "Deutsches Reichs Gebrauchs Muster".
But a copy of the original you should get from the "Deutsches Patentamt" in Munich.

 

[Ron Smith]

James , I thought I had heard mentioned a similar instance of a Luger with a hole in the trigger guard. Maybe I've just been sniffing White-out again. This whole concept is just a WAG, but seems feasible.



Bill, I thought about that. Individual access, could have been a requirement. Each individual may have been issued a key to their weapon only. This is obviously all speculation on my part. However, it is a hypothetical explaination for the hole. And seems logical under the circumstances. And also would explain the design of the lock.

Oh Well, when the wind blows, my head whistles. So there ya go!

Ron

 

[Edward Tinker]

There were times that chains were put through M60 or other guns, but this was simply a in-between solution. Army racks for 1911A1's was even more expensive than a single lock such as shown before. 20 (or some odd) weapons were place in the rack pointing muzzle down, then the entire locking mechanism was moved left or right like a sliding rod, locking the frame tight (I believe the "rods" went through the trigger guard) and a 5200 series lock was secured to the sliding part of the rack. There were 4 or 5 to each rack. Must have equaled a 100, because we had 2 racks full and one with a few and had over 220 1911A1's.

Ed