[Guest]

I have a very nice 1910 dated DWM all matching Luger. The serial# is 6211 and the (what I assume are unit markings located under the trigger gaurd on the pistol grip) are 13.A.2. The Luger is in excellent condition with absolutly no wear to the blueing. My qeustion is what unit wasm this assigned to? It's condition would lead me to beleive it didnt see combat. I also have the original holster,loading tool and 2 matching clips.

 

[Ron Smith]

Andy,
Photos we need photos. The exact configuration of the numbers and letter would help ID the unit mark. Is it exactly as you put in your post? 13.A.2
Ron

 

[Guest]

Yes it is excactly as I typed it.
Andy

 

[lugerlou]

Apickle

Andy, do you know if this luger has been reblued , or is the blueing original.

 

[Ron Smith]

Andy, The markings sound like, 13th Artillery Regiment. Stab (staff, no assigned company) Weapon 2.

The 13th Artillery was part of the 27th Div. made up of men from Wurttemberg.
1914 Fought at Longwy and Sassey. Pretz and Vaube'court.

1915 The Argonne

1916 Ypres against British and Canadians.

1917 Somme,Cambrai,Bellecourt and Ypres.

1918 Suffered heavy losses at Villers-Guislain. Heavy losses again at Aveluy. Lost 1400 prisoners at Bray and Suzanne. After which it was religated to reserve duty. The 27th was a 1st class div.

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A Wurttemberg soldier and enlisted man's buckle.

 

[Guest]

No, it hasnt been reblued.It really doesnt look like it was ever used.Very little info on how it was captured but I do know it was a vet bringback and I obtained it from the family of the deceiced vet.The grandson actually had it loaded in a gym bag on the floorboard of his truck.Very nice peice though.All parts matched including both clips.Another interesting thing about the gun is that the chamber will not stay open after the last round is fired. I thought this was a defect until I read this was common on Lugers until 1913.( info I obtaine don this site) I will post pics when I can get a camera that is compatible with my computer.Any more info would be nice. Thanks guys.

 

[lugerlou]

apickle

You indeed have found a treasure, common to find the early Erfurt's without a holdopen but not the DWM's, the serial numbers on the magazines should have large numbers and run from top to bottom on the wood bases opposed to side to side in small numbers.

Good that the luger has not been reblued nor touched up, check inside the holster for an ink stamping on back of flap. The holster may or may not have the same unit stamp as the pistol.

A few words of advice in case you do not already know is to avoid dressing up your holster with creams/ oils and so on as this will breakdown the leather over time, also take care not to stretch the holster flap to far back looking for stamping as this effects the stiching and causes it to break.

Looking forward to your photo's.

 

[Guest]

Lou,there are no markings on the holster. It is in good condition as well.The back of the holster(belt loop side) is shiney black leather the front is dull and soft. All the stiching is correct white cotton. However on the frontside the stitching has a brown tint.Possibly where the prvious owner tried to preserve the leather. No damage done though.

 

[lugerlou]

Apickle

The holster should be brown on both sides if originall to a 1911 luger, has the holster been dyed.Does the holster have any stamps or markings between the belt loops to indicate WW#2 issue, also check for any WaA markings or eagles.

Another thing that may be on the holster if WW#1 is stamping on the front of holster, should be a date of some kind and possibly an BAX ink stamp inside of back flap

What about your magazines, how are they serialed.

 

[Guest]

There are no markings on the outside. I have 2 WW2 holsters to compare it to. There are no markings on the inside of the flap either.However,above the loading tool pouch there is a section about 1 1/2x 3/4 of an inch that has been worn. Possibly due to rubbing against the rear toggle? Mags are as you specified. Large #'s vertical.

 

[lugerlou]

Andy

Will wait for your photo's, one other possibility is that the rear belt loops may be hiding your stamp which would require removal to obseve properly.That of course is out of the question.

Anyway congrats on a nice find, the old imperials bear a hord of history once researched.

 

[Guest]

Thanks, I have a real nice LP08 I would like to reserch as well. I love these old guns. I look forward to posting and learning alot on this forum.