[Guest]

There is a 1914 DWM on Guns America. # 976510869. On my computer it looks as if the parts which should be strawed are instead blued. So my new collector eye has decided that this luger is refinished. Is there another explanation? Thanks to all teachers out there. Jim

 

[Edward Tinker]

Two possibilities, reblued or the pictures are too dark. But it appears to me that those areas that should be strawed, are blued.

Here is the direct link for others opinions:

http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976510869.htm

Ed

 

[Ron Smith]

It could be the angle of the photo, but it sure looks like the trigger is blued. The rest of the pistol looks right. I would email them and point that out. Or ask them if the trigger is blue.


Ron

 

[Edward Tinker]

Ron, I thought a WW1 imperial should also have these two areas strawed;



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[Ron Smith]

Ed, You are right. I just glanced at the photo. The dark trigger just jumped out at me. So, either a well weathered re-blue or the parts are replaced. The up side is, that it's unit marked, but the price is a bit steep for the cond. under any circumstances. I have seen farely minty 1915s for less. In fact, I have a 1915 in 98% cond., that I bought for $600.

Ron
Jim, This one looks like a much better pistol, for the price. #976510892

 

[Guest]

Thanks for all the replys. I am interested in unit marked DWM's. There are a few I have found on other sites but the prices do not match what my books say the price range should be. It is either that or the market is pushing prices up quickly.(Or I don't know what I am doing.) Would it be possible for someone to post pictures of how the different type finishes should look. I am unclear as to the difference between salt blue and rust blue.

 

[Ron Smith]

Jim, Unit marked Lugers are becoming more and more popular. You will often pay a premium because of the unit mark. Some collectors would'nt be caught dead with a unit marked Luger. While some, like Mr Still would probably pay the price for a Cavalry marked pistol. Others go for machine gun units. I have a Jaeger Unit marked, reblued, 1st issue 1908. That I bought for more than I would ever have considered paying, because I was told by very knowledgable collectors, that the unit mark is rare. And would command much more than the price I paid. If you are interested in unit marks. Get Jeff Noll's book on Imperial Regimental marks, first. And if you can find it, German Small Arms Markings by Gortz. They are a must. And be aware that unit marks are being more frequently faked, as they become more popular.

As far as the difference in Rust blue and Salt blue. Rust blue has a soft, rich, sheen. Kind of a deep satin look. Salt blue shines, and appears almost black. One indication of a reblue on a pre-1937 Luger, is the halo around the ser# on the barrel. A fuzzy outline around edges of the numbers. If there's no halo. It's probably reblued. Experience is the key. You have to develope an eye for it. I have posted Jeff Noll's website.

Ron http://home.earthlink.net/~nopubl/

 

[keoki7]

I have that P08's long nosed brother, a 1917 LP08 numbered 8687d and marked "99.R.7.9.". I have also just recently seen a P08 marked to the 99th reserve regiment.

 

[Ron Smith]

Jim, Geo is kind of a cranky, irreverent type, with too many wives, but is a good source for unit mark information. I owe alot of my meanial knowledge to him. Just lock up your wallet before you talk to him.
Ron

 

[Guest]

Again, Thanks for the helpful replys. Geo I have also seen the PO8 from the 99th reserve regiment. The finish on the gun appears rough on my computer. Is the price out of line with the rough finish? There is a 1917 on Gun Broker # 23480167 which appears to have a nicer finish. However, does it appear refinished to more experienced eyes? Thanks Jim

 

[keoki7]

The price on the GA luger is fair.