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1917 DWM, LP08, SERIAL NUMBER 7670f, MACHINE GUN STAMPED, DETAILS AND WAR HISTORY.

1917 DWM LP08 Lugers (often called artillery) are reported in the 248 to 4884w serial range. P08 models are interspersed in the same serial range as LP08's during 1917. About 90,000 1917 dated LP08's were manufactured. The front and rear sight were initially fine tuned. Later in production the fine tuned feature was discontinued on the front sight and then on the rear sight. Less than 1 percent were unit marked.
A directive dated August 11, 1917 ordered each infantry company on the Western Front to be armed with 10 Long P08's for attack purposes (Gortz, 1994). A similar directive ordered the arming of the Sturm battilone with Long P08's with 6 extra magazines each (Schad, 1993). This special arming for assault troops would require most of the 1917 Long P08 production (Imperial Lugers, page xxv).
Of 800 reported unit marked Imperial Lugers 92 are LP08's and 68 of these are dated 1917. Of these 68, 53 are marked to infantry regiments, 5 to infantry regiment machine gun companies, 6 to infantry regiment minenwerfer companies and 4 to various other units.



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Figure 1. Left slant view of 1917 DWM LP08, serial number 7670f. The serial number placement is exposed (military style).



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Figure 2. Top, of 1917 DWM LP08, serial number 7670f. Note: it is of interest that the sight radius of the LP08 (back of rear sight to front of front sight) is 7.3 inches while that of the P08 is 8 inches. The LP08 has a shorter sight radius by 0.7 inches. Apparently the tangent sight was attached to the barrel because it was a solid-stable base when compared to the rear toggle link.



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Figure 3. Right side of 1917 DWM LP08, serial number 7670f. These all have a stock lug and hold open. This one does not have a fine tuned front sight.



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Figure 4. Right receiver and barrel 1917 DWM LP08, serial number 7670f. The barrel proof is of the style usually seen on Erfurt Lugers and it has often been theorized that the LP 08 barrels were all manufactured at the Erfurt plant. However, the inspectors and their stamps were beholding to a Gewehrfabrik Spandau formed acceptance commission, not the Erfurt plant. Manufacture of artillery barrels by DWM and their acceptance with a stamp similar to the Erfurt stamp or by an inspector assigned from the Erfurt plant is a more probable theory.



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Figure 5. 1917 DWM LP08, serial number 7670f. Details of the tangent rear sight. It is fine tuned and graduated to 800 meters in100 meter increments. As the sight is raised it increasingly shifts to the left to compensate for bullet drift. All the parts are numbered with the last two digits of the Lugers serial number.



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Figure 6. Front of frame and bottom of barrel of 1917 DWM LP08, serial number 7670f. Note: the halo around the digits of the barrel serial number and letter suffix; and the lack of halo on the frame serial number. The barrel serial number is through the blue and the frame serial is under the blue.


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Figure 7. Grips of 1917 DWM LP08, serial number 7670f. They are stamped with a faint 5 and some letters.
 

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Figure 8. Details of 1917 DWM LP08, serial number 7670f, unit markings: J.R.57.1.M.G.K.P.7. which signifies: Infanterie-Regiment 57, 1 Maschinengewehr-Kompagnie,
Pistole Nr. 7. LP08's marked to machine gun units are rare. Only 9 are reported (of these only 5 are dated 1917).



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Figure 9. World War I Machine Gun crew armed with the LP08. In close combat, the machine gun crew was expected to defend the machine gun with their LP08's.


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Figure 10. 1917 battle in France, LP08 armed member of a Machine Gun Crew caught in action.

During World War I the 57 th Infantry Regiment was part of the 14th Division. During 1917 the 14th Division battled in the region of the Chemin Des Dames where it took heavy losses. In June under French attack it lost the Cave of the Dragon. During 1918 the 14th Division trained for open warfare and battled in the Great German Spring attacks at Picardy, the Aisne, and Champagne. By the end of the War the 14th Divisions regiments were reduced from 12 companies to three.



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Figure 11. 1917 DWM LP08, serial number 7670f. This luger is stamped to the machine company of the 57th infantry Regiment. It is shown with its World War I battle history, troop horn marked to the 57 th Infantry Regiment, and holster.


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Figure 12. 57th infantry Regiment, World War I battle History.


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Figure 13. Troop horn bearing the Prussian Eagle and engraved to the 57th Infantry Regiment.


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Figure 14. Holster marked AWM/1/15 which signifies the Artillerie-Werkstatten Munchen. The 15 signifies 1915. Artillerie-Werkstatten Munchen (AWM) marked LP08holsters are scarce.
 

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Figure 8. Details of 1917 DWM LP08, serial number 7670f, unit markings: J.R.57.1.M.G.K.P.7. which signifies: Infanterie-Regiment 57, 1 Maschinengewehr-Kompagnie,
Pistole Nr. 7. LP08's marked to machine gun units are rare. Only 9 are reported (of these only 5 are dated 1917).



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Figure 9. World War I Machine Gun crew armed with the LP08. In close combat, the machine gun crew was expected to defend the machine gun with their LP08's.


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Figure 10. 1917 battle in France, LP08 armed member of a Machine Gun Crew caught in action.

During World War I the 57 th Infantry Regiment was part of the 14th Division. During 1917 the 14th Division battled in the region of the Chemin Des Dames where it took heavy losses. In June under French attack it lost the Cave of the Dragon. During 1918 the 14th Division trained for open warfare and battled in the Great German Spring attacks at Picardy, the Aisne, and Champagne. By the end of the War the 14th Divisions regiments were reduced from 12 companies to three.



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Figure 11. 1917 DWM LP08, serial number 7670f. This luger is stamped to the machine company of the 57th infantry Regiment. It is shown with its World War I battle history, troop horn marked to the 57 th Infantry Regiment, and holster.


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Figure 12. 57th infantry Regiment, World War I battle History.


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Figure 13. Troop horn bearing the Prussian Eagle and engraved to the 57th Infantry Regiment.


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Figure 14. Holster marked AWM/1/15 which signifies the Artillerie-Werkstatten Munchen. The 15 signifies 1915. Artillerie-Werkstatten Munchen (AWM) marked LP08holsters are scarce.
 

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Jan will likely not answer - he just monitors the forums anymore. But we have other experts that can likely help.

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By 1917 all German infantry regiments were issued ten LP08s per company.
 
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Either Jan Still's "Imperial Lugers" or Ed Sayre's "The Luger Snail Drum and Other Accessories for the Artillery Model Luger".
 
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