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1920/1918 ERFURT, SERIAL NUMBER 8196r, M.W./J.R.21.42.
Erfurt Lugers were manufactured from 1911 to 1918 by the Prussian Government owned Erfurt Arms Factory for the Imperial German Army. Those dated 1918 have a particularly rough fit and finish. All those dated 1918 were manufactured with a stock lug, hold open, relieved sear bar, military style serial number placement, and acceptance stamps on almost all parts. During 1918 Erfurt manufactured approximately 175,000 Lugers. These are reported in the 304 to 7538t serial range. (Imperial Lugers, page 62 and 77)


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Figure 1. 1920/1918 Erfurt, serial number 8196r. Note: the stock lug, hold open, relieved sear bar, military style serial number placement, and acceptance stamps on almost all parts. Most 1918 Erfurt’s have an unusually high polish on the top of the middle and rear links. Note: the crown/RC on the barrel.
This luger has the C/RC stamp on its barrel, receiver, frame and rear toggle link. This is the Revisions-Commission stamp applied to indicate that a serviceable Luger has failed inspection because of non-critical tolerances or external flaws. The C/RC stamp approved the Luger for service and absolved the inspectors from blame if the Luger subsequently failed. Most 1918 Erfurt’s have an abundance of Revisions-Commission stamps.(Imperial Lugers, page 62)


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Figure 2. Top, 1920/1918 Erfurt, serial number 8196r. The 1920 stamp was added sometime between August 1920 and April 1921. It is a Reichswehr property stamp applied to identify the Luger as German Army property to prevent theft. Civilians were paid a bounty for turning in their unauthorized weapons to be destroyed. The Army feared the theft of its unmarked Lugers for the bounty.(Weimar Lugers page 20-23) Note: the C/RC on the rear toggle link.


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Figure 3. Right side, 1920/1918 Erfurt, serial number 8196r. All the 1918 Erfurt’s observed lack the grip screw acceptance stamps.


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Figure 4. Right receiver, 1920/1918 Erfurt, serial number 8196r. Note: the C/RC above the left acceptance stamp.


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Figure 5. Bottom of barrel and front of frame, 1920/1918 Erfurt, serial number 8196r. Note: the C/RC on the trigger guard.


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Figure 6. Grips, 1920/1918 Erfurt, serial number 8196r. They bear an acceptance stamp and the last two digits of the Lugers serial number, 96.


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Figure 7. Rear, 1920/1918 Erfurt, serial number 8196r. According to orders dated 9 April 1921 previous weapons markings orders (the 1920 stamp) are now outdated. New weapons markings instructions are being prepared and temporary provisional orders are to be used until the new markings details and format are completed. The provisional markings are to include the number of the Kompagnie, Eskadron or Batterie and the consecutive individual weapon number. The location is not to be the space reserved for proper unit stamps and it is left to the unit to select the location for the provisional marking (locations noted: above lanyard, back strap, above chamber and areas above grips) . The provisional unit stamps were used between April 1921 and November 1922 (when the new markings details and format were completed). The M.W.42 is the provisional stamp. It signifies Minenwerfer-Kompagnie, weapon number 42.


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Figure 8. Front, 1920/1918 Erfurt, serial number 8196r. The completed unit stamp is properly located on the Lugers front strap. This location is according to finalized weapons marking instructions dated 1 November, 1922.


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Figure 9. Unit stamping details, 1920/1918 Erfurt, serial number 8196r. M.W./J.R.21.42. signifies: Minenwerfer-Kompagnie of Infanterie Regiment 21, weapon number 42. The Minenwerfer Kompagnie operated trench mortars.


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Figure 10. 1920/1918 Erfurt, serial number 8196r. Complete rig with tool and extra magazine. The Luger and holster are both marked to the same unit. Weimar Era Lugers continued to serve Germany until the end of World war II.


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Figure 11. Back of holster. M.W./J.R.21.42. Signifies: Minenwerfer-Kompagnie of Infanterie Regiment 21, weapon number 42.


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Figure 12. Front of holster beneath the flap. Most often Reichswehr unit stamps are located here. A.S. 488 signifies Reichswehr Artillery School weapon number 488 (and later 196).


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Figure 13. The maker is: GUSTAV REINHARDT / BERLIN / Eagle / WaA??
 

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Jan, very nice display of what is likely a Luger with 37 years of service. That third reich waffenampt on the holster persuades me this one never retired.
 

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Jan, Thought this might be of interest. I bought this from a Canadian seller on ebay a few months ago.

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An Imperial German Telegraph or Lineman's buckle. The hasps are for attaching a spool of wire for a field telegraph.


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The interesting part is that the belt is marked to the 21st Infantry Regiment. Were the various regiments re-formed or changed after the war? Or would this be the same regiment as the Reichswehr unit on the pistol.

Ron
 

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Update (thanks to webb site location http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=5062
provided by Ron Smith)
1920/1918 Erfurt, serial number 8196r. M.W./J.R.21.42. signifies: Minenwerfer-Kompagnie of Infanterie Regiment 21, weapon number 42.

The 21. (Bayerisches) Reichswehr Infanterie-Regiment was formed from the following Imperial units:

1st and 4th Companies: Kgl. Bayer. 9. Infanterie-Regiment Wrede

2nd Company: Kgl. Bayer. 18. Infanterie-Regiment Prinz Ludwig Ferdinand

3rd Company: Kgl. Bayer. 4. Infanterie-Regiment König Wilhelm von Württemberg

5th and 8th Companies: Kgl. Bayer. 14. Infanterie-Regiment Hartmann

6th Company: Kgl. Bayer. 21. Infanterie-Regiment Großherzog Friedrich Franz IV. von Mecklenburg-Schwerin

7th Company: Kgl. Bayer. 17. Infanterie-Regiment Orff

9th and 12th Companies: Kgl. Bayer. 7. Infanterie-Regiment Prinz Leopold

10th Company: Kgl. Bayer. 5. Infanterie-Regiment Großherzog Ernst Ludwig von Hessen

11th Company: Kgl. Bayer. 8. Infanterie-Regiment Großherzog Friedrich II. von Baden

Training Battalion: Kgl. Bayer. 19. Infanterie-Regiment König Viktor Emanuel III. von Italien
 

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Jan,
very nice set and great presentation.
However, here is something for you and Ron to think about.
The Imperial German Army was disbanded after WWI. How is it possible that the Reichswehr was formed out of Imperial German Army units ?
The "Tradition" of some of the Imperial German Army units was "honored" in the Reichswehr and later after 1934 in the Wehrmacht.

Klaus
 
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