[Ron Smith]

Jerry, Here are the photo's of the holster. They loaded alittle weird. You can see that the strap was riveted over stitch holes. I think the last photo is at the end of the post.My limited computer skills are evident. 4/5 of them at top of original post,1/5 at the bottom. Ron

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96.98 KBI picked this up at the Reno show. Did'nt know exactly what it was. Although I thought it was interesting.And the price seemed right. I have been told that it is not too common to find these dates.It's re-worked for magazine safety,but never installed. Or removed? Came with armorer repaired holster and original rod. Photos are not too well done. Still working on that.
Comments welcome and appreciated.

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[Edward Tinker]

Hello Ron,

From the stamped date, you can see it was made in 1921, and the 1920 is the property marking (Reichswehr marking). They were suppsoed to have applied this marking primarily in 1920, but was evidently applied in other years also by local armorers.

The two safties were applied in approx 1933, while the sear safety was still used, the magazinine safety was decided inferior and taken off. You will see them filled in like yours, and some are still mostly there, but clipped so they are inoperative. If you read past postings, you can see several examples by myself, Jan, James, Heinz and others.

The holster is post war modified, both front strap and back, from what I know about holsters (limited).

Ed

 

[Ron Smith]

Ed, Thankyou! I had heard something about this. Did'nt really understand. So it's re-worked for a mag safety? That would explain the hole in the frame, under the side plate.

Ron

 

[Edward Tinker]

Hello, yes, these are my cup of tea! I like the diversity and the police aspect of them.

Here is a picture of one of mine, specifically close up on the two safeties;



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[Ron Smith]

Ed, I have been told that the 1921 dated pieces are scarce. Is this correct, to your knowledge?
Ron

 

[Edward Tinker]

They are "scarcer", I have one, but the 1920 and the 1921 had fewer made. I can check Jan's book later tonight for amounts made, but then there are fewer that were made into police guns.

Ed

 

[Ron Smith]

Ed, I would appreciate any and all of the info you can give me. I'm still looking for a copy of Jan's book. No luck yet.I hate pestering people for info., but I want to learn all I can. Most of the books available really are'nt very detailed. And by the time you accumulate enough of them to piece everything together.You could have bought another Luger!

Thankyou! Ron

 

[lugerholsterrepair]

Ron, Quite the interesting rig. The holster is fascinating. As many holsters as have passed thru my shop here I have never seen a back panel conversion like yours has. Does the body of the holster under the belt loops appear to have been removed or was this new panel with the belt loops attached over the original holster? It almost looks like a Finnish holster. The rivets are old style, hand hammered on. On the front strap, can you look underneath and tell if another was ever sewn on? It is a WW1 era holster originally. Can you post a photo of the inside of the holster? Does it have the strap and pocket sewn into the inside to hold the cleaning rod? Thanks, Jerry Burney

 

[sauerfan]

Ron,


this is a very interesting and unusual 1921/1920 dated Luger! As is the holster. This evening, we discussed a similar 1921/1920 dated Luger of Fritz, shown here:

http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8319

The interesting point: Fritz' SN 944a has also the chamber dates 1920/1921, but has totally different army acceptance marking. Next: his Luger also has an unusual converted holster, also with an unusual cleaning rod. Just wondering.


Regards


Martin

 

[Ron Smith]

Hi Martin,

I needed to generate the finances for the Fiesler marked Luger. I had to sacrifice it to do so. However, I have a few 1921 ns, a and b suffixed Reichswehr issue Lugers.

The holster is a Finnish Army holster, as it turns out.

Ron