[Grunt]

Today,I examined a 1921 DWM,in original condition.The front Grip was marked with the following unit mark. P1.B.2.16. Would I be correct to state this mark signifies:
Pionier Division 1,Bataillone 2,Weapon 16.

 

[Ron Smith]

Hi Tom,
What is the ser# and suffix? The suffix should be, no suffix,a or b. Does it have a sear safety?( a small flat dogleg bar resting on top of side plate). Or a notch cut in left grip, just to rear of mag release? If so,it is a police pistol.

I believe it's the marking for:


P1= Police School for Physical Education
B.2= 2nd Battalion, or possibly, Berlin 2nd company?
16= Weapon #16

It would'nt be a Reichswhr unit as they changed the method of unit marking after WWI. Military units began incorporating a / in their unit marks. Your translation would be a pre-Weimar(1919) marking method. Obviously before the pistol was made.
Hope this helps.

 

[Jan C Still]

Grunt
Gortz page 71 lists Pi.B.1.Pi.K. as 1.(Prussian) Pionier-Bataillon, Stab Pionierkolonne. A Weimar Pionier stamp.

P1.B.2.16. may prove to be a Weimar Pionier marking.

However, Ron is correct. If it has a sear sarety it is Weimar police.
Jan

 

[Ron Smith]

Jan,
Also page 64 of Görtz lists Pi.B.1 as a weimar pioneer company. Obviously the / was not used in all Weimar markings. Thanks for pointing it out.

Tom, Check the marking and verify that the 1 is not actually an i.
If it is an i, then it may well be a Pioneer unit. However,if it is a 1 and the sear safety is present. It would be as I stated above. A police pistol.
Ron

 

[Heinrich]

Grunt,
Please check:
The P1 should be a Pi according to the provisional instruction of November 1922.
This instruction replaced the brief instruction of February and April 1921.

 

[Grunt]

The Serial # of the Weapon in question is 4808a. It is Dove/WaA4 accepted and E/WaA4 Test Proofed. No Sear Safety, No Mag. Safety. The caliber is 9 MM. Matching except mag.80% Blue, 10% Straw. Inside frame is polished.Pistol is in a Black Army Holster.The Manufacturers name and Town are located on the back of the holster,centered above the Belt Loops.Because of wear,I can't read either name.I can't find a date on the Holster.The mark in question is P1 not Pi.
Tom