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Pictures of a police unit marked luger without the sear safety or the magazine safety.

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Nice one! It's only 424 from mine. The suffix on the barrel has been struck with the same broken "t". the right half of the cross bar is missing. It looks like an L at first glance.

Odd that it is police marked, but no sear safety. Also stamped commercial and military style. May have been part of a military order that was diverted to the police, before the safetys were fitted. Very Nice!


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I have seen a couple of guns that are almost certainly police, yet they display either police markings, or they came with police style magazines and police style holster, but no mag or sear safety.

I have to assume that not all police guns were modified with mag or sear safety. One of the upcoming things I want to do is to "map" out all the known (on this forum and John D's forum), all the known cities and see what is shown and what is not.

Have an acceptable map I will use, although a larger one (in pixels) would be helpful, any suggestions?


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Thanks very much for posting these pictures. Your cancelled and renumbered mark is an example of what I am finding on a number of Prussian Schupo weapons. I'm beginning to believe that many of these units simplified their marking formats between 1922, when the Prussian Ministry of Interior issued marking instructions for the Schupo, and 1932, when instructions were issued for the Schupo, Kripo and Landjägerei. The 1922 orders specified marks representing up to three organizational levels before the weapon number. In addition to S. and an abbreviation for the administrative district, the marks included a Roman numeral for the "command" and an Arabic number for the "centuria" (Goertz & Bryans translations). This probably created a headache for the armorers as these subordinate levels were reorganized and personnel (and their weapons) were transferred from one unit to another. Steel is not the most revisable medium for identification! The chaos of the 1920s probably caused frequent reallocations of police forces. My guess is that these units concluded it was better to create only one series of weapon numbers within each administrative district and eliminate the markings for subordinate units.

Try http://www.gonschior.de/weimar/Preussen/uebersichtskarte.html. While this map (circa 1925) is a bit too large scale to locate all the cities, you can click on each Province and it will take you to a page for that Province. Near the top of each of these Province pages, you can click on "Uebersichtskarte" to get a very useful map of that Province. I have found these maps, as well as the other information provided, to be very useful in my research.
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