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Hello all!

Im completely new in this forum. Got this gun from my father. He used to compete (!) with it during the 50s and I wonder what can be said about its history looking upon the stamps, serial number etc.

Thanks,
/Erik

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Hi Erik,
Welcome to the Forum!! You have a very nice looking 1937 1st Variation Luger. The strawed parts and the serial number, 6451p confirms this.

It was one of the first Lugers completed in 1937, probably in January. The two Eagle-over-63 on the right side are the Inspection Acceptance Marks and the other eagle (looks like a sea shell) is the proof mark. This proof mark is applied after it is subjected to a number of over pressure loads fired from the pistol.

The small parts that are marked "51" are all matched to that particular Luger.

The S/42 Marking on the top of the toggle is the German Ordnance Code for Mauser!

Hope this helps!!
 
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Thanks a lot for the information Frank and Jan!

My father told me he bought this gun from someone involved in target shooting in the late 40s early 50s, and that it was "as new". How would a weapon like this end up in Sweden back then? Is this a commercial or military weapon? When the gun was manufactured, did it have another barrel? Who manufactured the replacement barrel? What effect does this replacement barrel have on the guns value? What might that value be?

Im kind of curious and also fully aware of that im inviting you to speculate freely on how gun trading in Sweden was conducted more than fifty years ago, but anyway... please speculate on!!!

Thanks,
/Erik
 
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Here I go again! This I will call "The hunt for the original barrel"...

I spoke to my father today, after a while he recollected the name of the seller of the P08. Our geuss was the he was no longer alive. Anyway, I ran a search on the particular last name in my fathers home town and came up with a match on 15 persons. I started calling these people one by one and after a while I got hold of the sellers daugter. She confirmed our guess as her father passed away some years ago. She also gave me the number to her brother who handled all the gun related issues at the time of their fathers death. I called him and he told me that unfortunately he had no parts left...:( About the barrel; its probably a finnish "Tikkakoski" barrel, smuggled into sweden during the 40s. Im just guessing on Tikkakoski, but in the topic above mine "Finnish 08" by Joda, I see the same mark on the barrel as on mine. Some interesting reading on the subject is found here: http://www.ankkurinvarsi.com/jaeger/PISTOLS1.htm

Thats all for now,
/Erik
 

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Erik, the "T" maker mark on the top of your barrel is indeed the Finnish Tikka stamp. Also the front sight on your pistol is typical of the Finnish Army replacement front sight ( I have posted pictures of Finnish Lugers down in the Finnish Section on this site ). It might also be possible that your pistol came out of Finland.
 
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