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I do not have pictures of this gun, as I didn't bring my digital camera with me while traveling. Met a guy today that is a WW2 vet and he brought items back with him. I have talked to him on the phone, we shared a letter each, met him via another worker.

He was a mortar man with the 29th Div., came in at 10:30 AM on D-Day, very nice gentleman. He brought home a little 25 cal with a holster, belt type. Then he had a DWM 1912 rifle, and a Carcano rifle, and then the one I was interested in. He had a 1938, nothing on the toggle luger in reasonable shape that he personally took off of a German. Interesting story, five of them were walking along a hedgerow and up pops a German and draws down on them, tells them to drop their weapons. Front guy drops his, he’s a sergeant but the German has the drop on him. The 2nd guy drops his, the last three say ah hell and fire at him. They all turned and ran down the way they’d come. Later that night, he creeps back by himself and checks the dead German, there is a luger in a holster and a nice knife in his boot. The shoulder holster is professionally made, with nice stitching, but not as professional as like a US GI one. He said he wore the shoulder holster the entire rest of the war. My feeling on the holster is that it was made for the German by a friend or business for him. No markings on the rear or front. Had a thin ¼ inch leather strap on each side, top and bottom.

The serial number is 86xx f, has two E/63 on the right side and also the same eagle, same markings as huggiebears in this picture;
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The mag is 3351f

Top of the barrel has an E/63

The catch is, nothing on the toggle and I believe the story from this Vet. He is a very nice older man, no reason to lie, his stories were very true sounding, and I simply have no reason to believe he was making anything up.

The rest of the gun was serial marked with last two. The toggle, I am pretty sure was marked with the last two, I did not get a really good look at it, as I didn't want to appear too fruity to him...

So, why the blank toggle?

Ed
 

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Ed........ How about a field replacement??? I have owned a couple of Lugers with blank toggles. Perhaps it got replaced by one from an old "Sneak" that got parted out. I know the adage about believing the gun and not the story but in a case like this I have the tendency to accept what the vet says and then try and figure out why.....if you can..... Would be great if you could get another look at it. I suspect if you could get it apart you would find some clues.......
 

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Ed, great story but I would have some real doubts. When in the army I never found myself in such a situation, but had I, I doubt that I would have drawn down on five armed enemy infantry. The sensible choices are 1-shoot them down from ambush 2-hide and pray 3-run like hell.
 

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Geo, I agree, but his stories had the ring of truth, if he did something he said so, if it was credit to others he said so. ...

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