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PART 2/5, 1908 DWM, SERIAL NUMBER 2108a, BAVARIAN CAVALRY ISSUED, B.1.Ch.4.11., DETAILS AND HOLSTER
1908 DWM Lugers (often referred to as first issues)are reported in the 1 to 4828b serial range and were manufactured without chamber date, hold open, stock lug, and with commercial style (hidden)serial placement. These were manufactured in 1908 and1909. About 25,000 were manufactured and about 25 percent of these are unit marked. In a data base with 870 unit marked Imperial Lugers, only 12 are Bavarian cavalry marked (1 Ulanen, 6 Chevauleger and 5 Scherer Reiter)
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Figure 14. Left slant view of Bavarian cavalry issue 1908 DWM, serial number 2108a. The serial number placement is hidden (commercial style).
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Figure 15. Top, 1908 DWM, serial number 2108a.
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Figure 16. Right side of 1908 DWM, serial number 2108a. This Luger is Bavarian unit stamped. A hold open has not been added. According to a May 6,1913 directive all P08's in service without a hold open were to have the hold open retrofitted by Erfurt. I have examined numerous Bavarian unit marked Lugers. All those that lacked the hold open at manufacture did not have it added. Apparently World War I started before the Bavarian’s had time to have the hold open added to their Lugers. Once the war started the troops and Lugers were scattered in battles on two fronts in a dozen countries and the hold opens were never added.
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Figure 17. Left receiver and barrel of 1908 DWM, serial number 2108a. Only the 1908 Variation has the two acceptance stamps and test proof on the left receiver (an exception is the 1906 model test).
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Figure 18 Front of frame and bottom of barrel of 1908 DWM, serial number 2108a. The serial number of the take down lever is in the commercial style (hidden). Note: examination of1908 DWM Lugers indicates that they do not display a halo around the digits of their barrel serial number.
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Figure 19. 1908 DWM, serial number 2108a., showing the inside of its grips. They bear worker stamps and are not serial number stamped.
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Figure 20. 1908 DWM, serial number 2108a. showing the bottom of it’s proper magazine. The large numbers aligned with the long axis of the magazine bottom were used on magazine bottoms from the start of the no suffix 1908 DWM First Issue to the 1911 dated DWM Lugers. A suffix was added to the magazine bottom when the “e” suffix was reached in 1911. Starting in about 1912 smaller letters aligned across the magazine were used.
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Figure 21. Front, 1908 DWM, serial number 2108a, showing unit markings. It bears Bavarian Chevauleger (Cavalry) unit stamps.
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Figure 22. Figure 6. 1908 DWM, serial number 2108a, with 1913 dated, Bavarian manufactured, Chevauleger marked (2nd Regiment) holster.
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Figure 23. The holster is marked AWM/9/13 B on its front, which signifies: Artillery Workshop Munchen 1911(Bavarian Army Workshop that specialized in artillery equipment, holsters and other leather goods). The significance of the “B” is unknown. Bavaria has been suggested.
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Figure 24. The holster is unit stamped 2.Ch.R. which signifies 2nd Chevauleger Regiment.
GO TO: 1900-1918: Luger unit markings, for this Lugers history and unit related accessories.
4/5, HISTORY, BAVARIAN CAV. DIV. LUGERS Jan C Still http://www.gunboards.com/luger/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3282
1908 DWM Lugers (often referred to as first issues)are reported in the 1 to 4828b serial range and were manufactured without chamber date, hold open, stock lug, and with commercial style (hidden)serial placement. These were manufactured in 1908 and1909. About 25,000 were manufactured and about 25 percent of these are unit marked. In a data base with 870 unit marked Imperial Lugers, only 12 are Bavarian cavalry marked (1 Ulanen, 6 Chevauleger and 5 Scherer Reiter)
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Figure 14. Left slant view of Bavarian cavalry issue 1908 DWM, serial number 2108a. The serial number placement is hidden (commercial style).
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Figure 15. Top, 1908 DWM, serial number 2108a.
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Figure 16. Right side of 1908 DWM, serial number 2108a. This Luger is Bavarian unit stamped. A hold open has not been added. According to a May 6,1913 directive all P08's in service without a hold open were to have the hold open retrofitted by Erfurt. I have examined numerous Bavarian unit marked Lugers. All those that lacked the hold open at manufacture did not have it added. Apparently World War I started before the Bavarian’s had time to have the hold open added to their Lugers. Once the war started the troops and Lugers were scattered in battles on two fronts in a dozen countries and the hold opens were never added.
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Figure 17. Left receiver and barrel of 1908 DWM, serial number 2108a. Only the 1908 Variation has the two acceptance stamps and test proof on the left receiver (an exception is the 1906 model test).
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Figure 18 Front of frame and bottom of barrel of 1908 DWM, serial number 2108a. The serial number of the take down lever is in the commercial style (hidden). Note: examination of1908 DWM Lugers indicates that they do not display a halo around the digits of their barrel serial number.
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Figure 19. 1908 DWM, serial number 2108a., showing the inside of its grips. They bear worker stamps and are not serial number stamped.
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Figure 20. 1908 DWM, serial number 2108a. showing the bottom of it’s proper magazine. The large numbers aligned with the long axis of the magazine bottom were used on magazine bottoms from the start of the no suffix 1908 DWM First Issue to the 1911 dated DWM Lugers. A suffix was added to the magazine bottom when the “e” suffix was reached in 1911. Starting in about 1912 smaller letters aligned across the magazine were used.
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Figure 21. Front, 1908 DWM, serial number 2108a, showing unit markings. It bears Bavarian Chevauleger (Cavalry) unit stamps.
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Figure 22. Figure 6. 1908 DWM, serial number 2108a, with 1913 dated, Bavarian manufactured, Chevauleger marked (2nd Regiment) holster.
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Figure 23. The holster is marked AWM/9/13 B on its front, which signifies: Artillery Workshop Munchen 1911(Bavarian Army Workshop that specialized in artillery equipment, holsters and other leather goods). The significance of the “B” is unknown. Bavaria has been suggested.
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Figure 24. The holster is unit stamped 2.Ch.R. which signifies 2nd Chevauleger Regiment.
GO TO: 1900-1918: Luger unit markings, for this Lugers history and unit related accessories.
4/5, HISTORY, BAVARIAN CAV. DIV. LUGERS Jan C Still http://www.gunboards.com/luger/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3282
