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PART 3/5, 1911 DWM, SERIAL NUMBER 260e, BAVARIAN ARTILLERY ISSUED, B.5.Ar.3.89. , DETAILS AND HOLSTER

1911 DWM Lugers are reported in the 4089b to 274f serial range and were manufactured without hold open and stock lug. All those manufactured up to serial number 88xxe had hidden style serial number placement. Between serial number 88xxe and 93xxe the style of serial number placement changed to military (exposed) (Luke). There is considerable overlap in serial range with the 1910 DWM. About 13,000 were manufactured and approximately 20 percent of these were unit marked.


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Figure 25. Left slant view of Bavarian Cavalry issued 1911 DWM, serial number 260e. The serial number placement is hidden (commercial style).


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Figure 26. Top view of 1911 DWM, serial number 260e.


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Figure 27. Right side of 1911 DWM, serial number 260e. This Luger is Bavarian unit stamped. A hold open has not been added. According to a May 6,1913 directive all P08's in service without a hold open were to have the hold open retrofitted by Erfurt. I have examined numerous Bavarian unit marked Lugers. All those that lacked the hold open at manufacture did not have it added. Apparently World War I started before the Bavarian’s had time to have the hold open added to their Lugers. Once the war started the troops and Lugers were scattered in battles on two fronts in a dozen countries and the hold opens were never added.


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Figure 28. Right receiver of 1911 DWM, serial number 260e. There are two acceptance stamps and a test proof on the right receiver.


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Figure 29. Front of frame and bottom of barrel of 1911 DWM, serial number 260e. The serial number of the side plate and take down lever is in the commercial style (hidden). Note: the halo around the digits of the barrel serial number and lack of halo on the frame serial number. The barrel serial number is through the blue.


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Figure 30. Backside of grips showing the last two digits of the matching serial number (60).


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Figure 31. Matching e suffix magazine for this 1911 DWM.. The large numbers aligned with the long axis of the magazine bottom were used on magazine bottoms from the start of the no suffix 1908 DWM First Issue to the 1911 dated DWM Lugers. A suffix was added to the magazine bottom when the “e” suffix was reached in 1911. Starting in about 1912 smaller letters aligned across the magazine were used.


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Figure 32. Front, 1911 DWM, serial number 260e. B.5.Ar.3.89. signifies: Bavarian 5 Field Artillery Regiment 3rd Mounted Battery. (Its home base is Landau.)


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Figure 33. 1911 DWM, serial number 260e, Bavarian Artillery issue (Landau based) with 1912 dated, Bavarian Landau manufactured holster.


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Figure 34. Holster manufacturing inscriptions: M. ZOTZ / SATTLER / LANDAU / PFALZ /12 and AWM / 16 / 12. Subcontracting likely accounts for the combination of AWM and M. Zotz / Sattler / Landau / Pfalz manufacturing stamps.


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Figure 35. Back of holster.

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