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The purpose of this study is to learn where the coarse brown plastic HK grips that Mauser acquired ended up. With Jan's pemission, I am using the pistols listed from his sticky on 1940 42 Code Variations and added a few I had on file as a place to start. All that is needed is the year and serial number.

1940 - 42 code

23xx y
5985 z
6215 f
8196 f
8272 f
9718 f
9821f
9823 f
3615 g
4324 g
4328 g
5037 g
5906 g
7037 g
5372 h
9949 h * might be the same pistol as reported below with just first two digits*
99xx h
74 i
81 i
5972 i
8201 i *** has bring back paper
120 k
206 k
1398k
1389 n

1940 Banner

1220 x -- E/655 R/H receiver proofs, E/N on L/H receiver, barrel & breechblock


41 BYF

1733a

41 BYF Ku

Ku 4219 -- See pages 131 & 254 of THE KRIEGHOFF PARABELLUM by Randall Gibson


42 byf

9573e
225 i
5896 k
 

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Steve... Thanks for being the first one to reply and for the new SN. List updated
 

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1940 Dated Mauser Banner, sn1220x, E/655 E/655 right receiver and E/N on left receiver, barrel and breech block. Brown HK plastic grips. See page 142 Third Reich Lugers.
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Just curious, why would Mauser have needed to scarff plastic grips from HK, especially for 'commercial' Banners, as they were appearently using wood well into the byf 41s, and maybe later?
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Mike.... I think many agree that Mauser got some parts from HK in 1939 to include some old Simson E/6 sideplates (which you see from time to time on Banners) along with some brown plastic grips. I also have a 1939 Police Banner that has a E/6 stamped receiver.
 

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Dave, thanks for the answer and the message. I'd just never run across any Mausers in my travels other than 'widows' with original plastic grips, and they were all black.
Mike
 

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Mike... You kind of hit upon the reason for this thread. I don't think there were all that many and up until a few weeks ago the only brown plastic grips I had seen were on 1940-42 code pistols. I was at a small show and the 42 BYF came in. Not for sale and I believed his story on the history of the gun. It should be interesting to see what all turns up.
 

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I have added a 41 BYF Ku 4129 which is pictured and discribed on Page 254 of Randall Gibson's THE KRIEGHOFF PARABELLUM. Comments appreciated.
 

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1937 S/42 with brown grips

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I just picked up from a vets son, a 1937 S/42 with brown hk grips. The son said the luger has not seen day light since it was brought back from WW2. I will try to post picts tomorow. Joe.
 

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Joe... Will look forward to seeing the pictures. Please include one of the insides of the grips.....
 

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Been a spell since we've been here. Added 7037g today.... 1940 / 42 code
 

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Steve... Thanks for the heads up. I contacted the owner and have added it to the list. As I explained over on the other forum that IMO the material that came over from Krieghoff back in the early 40's would probably have been used up before the 42 BYF was made. It is way too early in the study to know for sure so I am including all data submitted. My guess is that it probably did not come from the factory with those grips on but I have no way of proving that and there are many explainations on how they could have ended up on this pistol.
 
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