[lugercollector]

Here are photos of a Luger recently imported into the USA from Canada....John Olsen posted a picture and question concerning the meaning of the asterix mark on the barrel......the other question we have is on the serial #....although I did not take a photo of the front of the frame,I am 95% sure the suffix is an "n" or more likely an "m".....in Jans book,3rd Reich Lugers,it appears that these suffixs are not possible with this low ser #.....the book does mention(page 66) under 41-42 code Lugers that there is a considerable overlap in ser# ranges for 1940-42,41-42 and BYF 41 Lugers.....any feedback as to whether or not this ser# is possible would be appreciated....Thanks...(could the asterix have anything to do with an anomaly in the numbering sequence or the end/beginning of a production run??)<s></s>

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[Jan C Still]

Peter
Look at the post: http://www.gunboards.com/luger/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4010

I am inclined to believe that the "n" suffix would be on the margins of the serial number range gathered for the 1988 preparation of Third Reich Lugers, page 16. The "m" range is a stretch. Perhaps there is more up to date data. Please check the letter suffix against that in the list above to see if it matches the m or n suffix. I would like to add the serial number to the list in the link. It is unlikely that the asterk is related to the serial number.
Jan

 

[lugercollector]

Thanks for the reply Jan....... will examine the suffix,and hopefully post a picture to confirm what it is...and then it could be added to the list

 

[RockinWR]

Hi Peter,
* I have been told SN 710n is the lowest number reported to date for a byf'41 Luger. If your is an all matching "n" block, it would be the new lowest reported I've heard.
* Not to say an "m" block byf '41 couldn't exist; but, like Jan, I'd think this would be a real stretch.
* How's the picture coming along? This thread would make a nice documentation record for this Luger transition point.

 

[Johnolsen]

Hello, Peter and myself need help with this luger. Maybe these pictures will help. I want to buy this luger but I want to make sure it is all original. Suffix letter is a problem, looks like an m. Books all say this can not be right.

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[RockinWR]

Hi John/Peter,
* Thanks for the great pics of your byf'41.
* Personally, I think this example is neither the "m" nor "n" block.
* A "P.08" is marked on the L/H vertical flat by the safety. This did not begin till approximately 3200n. Your 157"?" byf'41 would have been earlier than that.
* From your pictures, I believe this suffix is a "w". This certainly is in the byf'41 S/N range.
* Jan's post, attached, has a S/N chart near the top which I believe shows a "w" similar to your suffix marking given the two bottom loops are "worn" off.
* The Inside Side Plate Number(ISPN) is correct. The "2" is 1 higher than the first two digits (01) of the pistol's S/N.
* Trust this helps.

 

[taudelt]

I would agree with Bob..... sure looks like a W to me.......

 

[Johnolsen]

Thanks for the quick replys. Would this odd looking w be caused by being mistruck or is this possibly a very good reblued luger? More pictures below.


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[Frank]

Hi John, the markings and corners are too sharp to be a reblue. I am almost positive the finish is original.

As for the suffix, I agree with Bob and Dave regards a "W", but it also might be a "V". The "W" would be my first choice. It's tough to say it's improperly struck, but I can't explain any other way it could have been made!!

BTW Bob, good eye with respect to the M-Block and the Frame P.08 Stamp!

 

[Doug G]

Definatly a W this is s V.



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[Jan C Still]

Peter and John
I agree with Frank, Doug, Dave, and Bob. The suffix is probably a "w" and it fits very well with the data in the link table below. As Bob pointed out the P08 on the side fits well with the "w" suffix.
Jan
1940/1941 DATES MILITARY CODES 42 and byf DATA Jan C Still http://www.gunboards.com/luger/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4017

 

[lugercollector]

Gentlemen,We now know what we have,Thank You all for your help......

 

[Guest]

check the SE655 acceptance. All 42-byf pistols after the ns block were SE 135 marked.