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I believe this is a strawed and rust blued, somewhat late, 1st. variation 1937...it coincides with the serial numbering format layed out in the book by Don Hallock, and Joop van de Kant...

Aside from this, if you look CLOSELY at the two photos on the left, you can see residual straw on the trigger and magazine catch, underneath the flaking chrome...

This is no 2nd. variation hot-salt blued example...

This example is one of the 3,206 manufactured with the 2mm Mauser "hump" frame, strawed and rust blued...

This production number accounts for only 2.5% of the manufactured Lugers, by Mauser, in 1937...

I have never witnessed a 2nd. variation, blued 1937, with a serial number beneath the serial number of this pistol...8722 "s"...not ORIGINAL blue, anyway...

There is ONE S/N blued 1937 on Still's listing, with the S/N 6902 "s", but this is likely a re-blue...JMHO...and I collect many 1937 examples...
 

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Wow...must say I am amazed...from your photos, your Luger appears as you say, but again, to be 100% for sure, pistol in hand, in low natural light, would be the best test...amazing, to say the least...

The four 1st. variations I have, are also in separate letter suffix blocks...q,r,s, and t...only the "s" and "t" suffix letter block Lugers have the 2mm Mauser "hump" frame...though soon to add a third example with a "hump" here shortly...also in the "t" letter suffix...

So my inventory includes, all strawed, and rust blued...

1) 8279 "q"...flat back...

2) 6854 "r"...flat back...

3) 5610 "s"...hump back...

4) 1699 "t"...hump back...

5) 2130 "t"...hump back...(soon to acquire)...

I do have two 2nd. variation 1937's, with one having the fire (nitre) blued pins and springs...it DOES look sharp in contrast to the hot salt blue finish...it's S/N 3021 "t", per se, an early 2nd. variation example...

Well, I guess the old adage pertaining to Lugers might be true..."Never say never"...Thank you, Bob...

Edward
 

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Just my honest opinion...Odds are this is/was, could be again, a 1937 strawed and rust-blued (late) 1st. variation, w/the Mauser "hump"...

Up to the owner, but it might be worthwhile to "save" it...if so chosen to be done by a competent gunsmith, he could probably tell you for sure, what she "used" to be...

Either way, enjoy it for what it is/was...

Edward
 

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I have to wait until the 21st to get it. I'll disassemble it and post the inner pictures.
 

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I'd recommend Eugene Golobtsov over at Lugerman.com. He does amazing work and is legit. The only problem with him is he is a total pain in the a#$ when it comes to getting your item back. First job took 1.5 years. Second job i ended up having to take extreme measures after 3 years. It is bittersweet that I wont use him again due to how amazing of a job he does but I just cant handle bench times that approach eternity. 1 year is fine. Anything more than that and my wrath becomes epic. Give him a try and see if he will gurantee a bench time. I know the .45 cal lugers he is pumping out is consuming his time but maybe that is slowing down?


Since we are talking about restoring nickel plated pistols, i just happen to have one he did.

Also, I am not sharing this to take heat from anyone. I am sharing this because it literally is relevant and the pistol was junk before the restoration.
 

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OOOHHH, The poor holster!
 

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It is a shame the holster is so damaged. I chose to keep the holster due to it being serialized to the gun on the back and it has a police mark next to the waa stamp. Too interesting to chunk.
 

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Finally off hold and I paid for it. Still have to wait 10 days. Commiefornia at its best.
I didn't know, but it came with 3 magazines, not 1. Could an expert tell me what they are? Thanks.
Can't wait to shoot it. I'd be afraid to shoot it if it was un-fooled with.
 

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Thanks. Its serial 7212 with the "+". The other 2 are unmarked. One has a clear plastic bottom.
 

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The magazine on the far left, I believe is for a Mauser Banner Police Luger...and later manufacture, so not even period correct...if you scraped off the chrome, you would probably find the Haenel/Schmeisser Patent stamping, including the "arrow" logo...though not entirely sure, since I am not that knowledgeable about the Mauser Police Banners...

The Haenel/Schmeisser magazines are of extremely high quality, and somewhat rare...I would definitely hold on to that one, of the three magazines...

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Thanks. That mag seems to have a more square bottom, and longer?
The wood base one has very faint proofs above and below the serial, and rectangular dimples. So Erfurt?
 

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Not a Luger expert here but it's hard to find anything under $1K so I think you did good. Enjoy it!
 

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https://luger.gunboards.com/showthread.php?39876-One-*HAPPY!*-1917-DWM

^ My thread detailing the work I did on a very ugly nickel plated/rusty 1917 DWM a few years back. I got that gun for dirt cheap though. In your case, I would leave that gun the way it is and enjoy it as a shooter. Even doing a strip and re-blue yourself will cost more than the gun will be worth in the end, considering what you paid for it.

I have been waiting to shell out $350 for another nickel plated P.08 owned by a fellow gun club member. It’s an S/42 with a very clean and intact plating job. One matching mag and one non. I saw him shooting it almost a year ago and he said he’s willing to let it go for $350 due to its collector value being gone. He’s right, and that is a very fair price.
 

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"I have been waiting to shell out $350 for another nickel plated P.08 owned by a fellow gun club member. It’s an S/42 with a very clean and intact plating job. One matching mag and one non. I saw him shooting it almost a year ago and he said he’s willing to let it go for $350 due to its collector value being gone. He’s right, and that is a very fair price."

It would be a bargain at twice the price, JMHO. :cool:
 
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