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It is not a regular variation. Remember the factory was under German rule. Some Czech workers assembled pistols from stolen or rejected, mostly not numbered parts. I found a couple of similar not numbered pistols. Both have askew rifled barrels and not numbered frame & slide.

Similar "forced labors pistols" were made in Spreewerk factory in Hradek nad Nisou. In this time in factory was not a serious problem bring together almost all pistol parts except grips and magazines. Grips and magazines were not produced in Hradek nad Nisou and the number of them was closely watched. Than the "forced labors P.38 pistols" have no grips and magazines. Grips are mostly replaced with piece of metal sheet (from meat can) wrapped with adhesive tape and magazine was replaced with wooden block. This modification turns P.38 into the single-shot pistole. This pistols were used in Nazi last moments to capture a fully functional weapons.
 

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Mauper,

My understanding is that the "U" serial number guns are test guns and the no serial number guns were produced before the "U" guns. I think Robert A/K/A Bohemian, can elaborate on that more than I can.

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Jan,

I am going to have to disagree with the idea that these none serial numbered guns are not a normal variation. There are numerous examples here in the US that are finely finish, complete with correct grips. These are highly finished pistols produced in the factory. If these guns were taken from the factory with out German knowledge then they were completed guns. These guns are very early German controlled production guns. They have all the early features and are highly polished and nicely blued. These guns are not your lunch box specials. Mark’s gun does appear to have a none standard takedown lever, that could have been made at any time. His is not the first pistol that I have seen that has some none factory replacement parts. There are enough of these pistols out there that I would consider them a known variation and a must for any serious Cz-27 collector.

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Remember the Strakonice was liberated by US troops. Many (About three thousands missed the factory according official report!!)pistols were produced in May days without any control as gifts for welcomed GI´s. The simple method to distinguish the "lunch box specials" and "thanksgiving pistols" for GI´s is the first group has poor finish.
 
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