[bayard1908]

Thank you for all the great Dreyse data gentlemen. I've already established a good framework for researching these pistols.

My first major question has already been answered. Not all of the pistols between 113324 and 190775 are Imperial German marked. I've now seen two pistols in this range without Imperial German markings. One had 1916 Austrian commercial proofs, in addition to the German commercial proofs. The other had 1917 Austrian military proofs, in addition to the German commercial proofs. Is Volume One's statement that "about 80000 .... were officially procured" based on more documentation than the serial range above?

I've also encountered what appears to be an Imperial marking which differs from those shown in Volume One. Let me know what you think of this marking, which is shown below.

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[student1979]

It is marked "Rheinische", but I'm not sure how to tell the diffrence when it comes to the rear sight. I'm no expert on Dreyse. The gun was taken from the main customs office here in Oslo (the capital of Norway) when the germans surrendered in 1945.

 

[bayard1908]

<<It is marked "Rheinische", but I'm not sure how to tell the diffrence when it comes to the rear sight.>>

The pistol pictured at the left has a reinforced rear sight. The gun on the right has a standard rear sight.

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I'd also like to know if your pistol has angled slide serrations or vertical slide serrations. Both types are shown in the photo below. Thank you.

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[Orv Reichert]

I own the following:

DREYSE 1907 7,65 121138 IMP. ACCEPT..GOOD CONDITION
DREYSE 1907 7,65 193371 IMP. ACCEPT..EXLT CONDITION
DREYSE 1907 7,65 216724 C/N VG CONDITION-RHEINMETALL
R.F.V. NO 3251 W/HOLSTER
DREYSE 1907 7,65 219976 C/N VG CONDITION-RHEINMETALL
DREYSE 1907 7,65 244024 99+%..NO MFG NAME...CROWN/N

If you need more info, let me know? It might take a while as I don't have ready access to all of them!

Orv

Orvel L. "Orv" Reichert
P O Box 67
Vader WA 98593
360-245-3492
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[email protected]

quote........He is indebted to his memory for his jests and to his imagination for his facts. ..Richard Brinsley Sheridan

 

[student1979]

To answer your questions on Dreyse M1907, RFV-marked, #217421:

1. It is marked: "Rheinische Metallwaaren & Maschinenfabrik Abt. Sömmerda"
2. It has a reinforced rear sight.
3. It has angled slide serrations.

How rare is this rig?
When was it produced?

Thanks.

 

[CBrown]

POLICE MARKED M07
M07 SN 225766, frame left side: SÄCHS. GEND. No. 813; front grip: L.G.
In the WTS Koblenz under inventory number 0008018.

 

[Olefogey]

Have two "run of the mill Dreyse", 1- no imperial proof, ser. #89999, vertical serrations, un-numbered mag, grip screw through the center of the grips and an un-reinforced rear sight. 1- no imperial proof, ser no.222860, slanted serrations, RFV No.5105 marked (Reichs Finance Verwaltung), un-numbered mag, grip screw through the center of the grips and it has a reinforced rear sight. Maybe these will add to your data base.

Dave

 

[bayard1908]

I've been out sick for the last week, but, look forward to following up on all these newly mentioned Dreyses shortly. Thank you for the data.

 

[sauer]

I am concidering purchasing a 07 Dreyse from a internet site. It is a late model, having the angled cuts in the slide, and a centered grip screw. It is marked L.P.D Memel No175 above the grips, where my other police models are marked. Does anyone have any information about this marking, and possibly a estimated value?

 

[onaway]

My Dreyse 1907 came from a WWII vet who took it from a dead German in the town of Berdorf, Luxembourg just prior to Feb 9, 1945.

It is refinished I think, much of the left side rear slide data is almost polished off. It is a crown N proof. Serial is 194422. It has wooden grips, in light brown, I dont know if they were hand made by the soldier or not. Grip screw is about centered.

Interesting is that a War Department QMC Form 499 is attached by string through the trigger guard and it was never removed by the soldier when he got home. It is a customs form bring back kind of thing from the quarter masters. Tag has the matching serial number entered. He put it in the drawer and never looked at it until he sold it to me.

There is one clip with the gun, no ser #.
The holster is a nice light brown with a pull down keeper strap. The holster is not maker marked but has a large black #2 ink stamped on the inside flap.

Wish I knew more, I will try to get a digital if you need one.

Great post, keep it going!

Regards,

Keith

 

[onaway]

I forgot to mention this gun has vertical serations and has a reinforced rear sight. Hope this is clear

quote:Originally posted by onaway

My Dreyse 1907 came from a WWII vet who took it from a dead German in the town of Berdorf, Luxembourg just prior to Feb 9, 1945.

It is refinished I think, much of the left side rear slide data is almost polished off. It is a crown N proof. Serial is 194422. It has wooden grips, in light brown, I dont know if they were hand made by the soldier or not. Grip screw is about centered.

Interesting is that a War Department QMC Form 499 is attached by string through the trigger guard and it was never removed by the soldier when he got home. It is a customs form bring back kind of thing from the quarter masters. Tag has the matching serial number entered. He put it in the drawer and never looked at it until he sold it to me.

There is one clip with the gun, no ser #.
The holster is a nice light brown with a pull down keeper strap. The holster is not maker marked but has a large black #2 ink stamped on the inside flap.

Wish I knew more, I will try to get a digital if you need one.

Great post, keep it going!

Regards,

Keith

 

[bayard1908]

<<I will try to get a digital if you need one.>>

I would like to see a photo of this pistol. It's much earlier than any reinforced rear sight pistol I've heard of yet. I would expect it to have an Imperial proof near the ejection port though. Thank you.

 

[onaway]

I will have to borrow a friends digital camera as mine is broken. I'll post it as soon as I can.

Yes there is a proof near the ejection port on the slide and on the frame, on the left side.

Regards

Keith

 

[bayard1908]

<<DREYSE 1907 7,65 216724 C/N VG CONDITION-RHEINMETALL
R.F.V. NO 3251 W/HOLSTER
DREYSE 1907 7,65 219976 C/N VG CONDITION-RHEINMETALL>>

These are the earliest Rheinmetall marked Dreyses I've heard of yet. Please advise on whether they have reinforced rear sights and the type of slide serrations.

<<DREYSE 1907 7,65 244024 99+%..NO MFG NAME...CROWN/N>>

I expect the above pistol has slanted slide serrations. Are these serrations cut into the slide, or, do they extend above the main surface of the slide? Thank you.

 

[bayard1908]

<<POLICE MARKED M07 SN 225766, frame left side: SÄCHS. GEND. No. 813; front grip: L.G. In the WTS Koblenz under inventory number 0008018.>>

Please advise on the following:

1. Reinforced rear sight or not?
2. Type of slide serrations?
3. Marked Rheinmetall or Rheinische?

Thank you.

 

[bayard1908]

<<ser no.222860, slanted serrations, RFV No.5105 marked (Reichs Finance Verwaltung), un-numbered mag, grip screw through the center of the grips and it has a reinforced rear sight.>>

Is this pistol marked Rheinmetall or Rheinische?

Thank you.

 

[onaway]

quote:Originally posted by onaway

I forgot to mention this gun has vertical serations and has a reinforced rear sight. Hope this is clear

Correction!!!

I was wrong about the sights, sorry for the confusion. This gun has standard rear sights, with vertical serrations on the slide. The right side slide is stamped " Dreyse Rheinische ..."

There is a crown N on the right slide, right right barrel, and right trigger guard, all in a vertical line. 10/30/03.

Keith

quote:Originally posted by onaway

My Dreyse 1907 came from a WWII vet who took it from a dead German in the town of Berdorf, Luxembourg just prior to Feb 9, 1945.

It is refinished I think, much of the left side rear slide data is almost polished off. It is a crown N proof. Serial is 194422. It has wooden grips, in light brown, I dont know if they were hand made by the soldier or not. Grip screw is about centered.

Interesting is that a War Department QMC Form 499 is attached by string through the trigger guard and it was never removed by the soldier when he got home. It is a customs form bring back kind of thing from the quarter masters. Tag has the matching serial number entered. He put it in the drawer and never looked at it until he sold it to me.

There is one clip with the gun, no ser #.
The holster is a nice light brown with a pull down keeper strap. The holster is not maker marked but has a large black #2 ink stamped on the inside flap.

Wish I knew more, I will try to get a digital if you need one.

Great post, keep it going!

Regards,

Keith

 

[onaway]

Here finally are pics of my gun, I had to borrow a friends digital camera.

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[Olefogey]

Originally posted by bayard1908

<<ser no.222860, slanted serrations, RFV No.5105 marked (Reichs Finance Verwaltung), un-numbered mag, grip screw through the center of the grips and it has a reinforced rear sight.>>

Is this pistol marked Rheinmetall or Rheinische?

Thank you.

This Pistol is marked Rheinische!!!

Dave

 

[holster_collector]

I recently acquired s/n 241058 but it is not at home now. I will be able to inspect it again in December. The only interesting thing about it is it is marked to Stalag 9. The markings look typical of police unit marked pistols. I got it from a guy in Wisconsin who got it (claimed) from a local vet who (claimed he) picked it up at a "camp".