[Dwight Gruber]

Horning in on this topic for a moment, some observations occur to me.

Survey samples tend to indicate that common factory practice when installing a fresh replacement barrel was to stamp a witness mark to match the receiver mark.

The overstamp is troubling.

the pictures are not -nearly- clear enough to make a determination with any confidence. The apparent "flattening" of the barrel flange is striking enough to make me want to take a closer look. I'd think this might be easy to determine if one could see the barrel and receiver bottom together.

--Dwight

 

[Dwight Gruber]

Wes,

Regarding proofs on early guns, I seem to recall that many 1900 Lugers were not proofed (the citation is lost in the mists of memory). I can tell you that my own 1900AE is export stamped Germany, but has no proofs of any kind.

A "presentation piece" might be brought into the US privately, that is by the person making the presentation, and not be officially an "export". Thus, it might very well not be stamped Germany.

--Dwight

 

[Dwight Gruber]

Patrick,

Vickers Lugers are not German proofed as they never entered Germany. They are proofed in Great Britain: barrel proofed with an NP nitro proof and Crown-over-P proof, and also the Crown-over-V view mark (inspector's stamp). The toggle pieces are also stamped with the c/V.


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They are also stamped on the left receiver with a Crown-over-W Dutch proof mark, I have no photo to provide as this proof on my Vickers has been obliterated during Indonesian arsenal rework.

--Dwight

 

[Dwight Gruber]

Patrick,

Vickers Lugers are not German proofed as they never entered Germany. They are proofed in Great Britain: barrel proofed with an NP nitro proof and Crown-over-P proof, and also the Crown-over-V view mark (inspector's stamp). The toggle pieces are also stamped with the c/V.


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They are also stamped on the left receiver with a Crown-over-W Dutch proof mark, I have no photo to provide as this proof on my Vickers has been obliterated during Indonesian arsenal rework.

--Dwight