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Hello All, I have a DWM mfg'd police issue P.08 and would like to determine if it's an Imperial rework or a newly mfg'd piece. When purchased, I assumed it to be a newly mfg'd, circa 1920 "Weimar Alphabet DWM Luger", but perhaps it just may be an Imperial rework after all. It's specifications are as follows; Serial # 5643n (military style numbering), DWM toggle, 1920 / 1920 dated chamber, E/ArA4 (x3) proofs on right rcvr., "lazy / sideways" C/N on left rcvr. & on left frame, directly in front of serial #. (the 2 C/N's are directly in-line with each other on the left side of the rcvr & frame.) I've noted the "lazy" C/N proofs on pre-1919 commercial P.08's & also on some other, military procured commercial pieces, but never on a P.08 such as mine. It's barrel too has a "lazy" C/N, along with an E/Ara4 proof, the serial #, 5643n & the dia. mkg., 8.82. It's sear bar has an HZa 18 (or 13) military depot mkg., which I take to indicate a Nazi era depot level repair. The magazine present when purchased was of the WW1 era wooden base variety, with police issue mkgs of the number "1", "Sunburst B" & "107". The weapon doesn't have any military or police issue property / unit mkgs present. I do apologize to everyone for the lack of photos, as I'm sure they would have gone a long way towards determining exactly which type of P.08 it is. Sooner or later I'll have to breakdown and pick one up! If anyone has an idea as to this Luger's origin, I'd really like to hear from them. As always, any & all comments will be most deeply appreciated. (P.S.: I forgot to mention that it has an active sear-safety present.) THANK YOU. Regards, Dom Pastore Jr.
 

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Re your 1920/1920 DWM, E/ArA4, lazy C/N, HZa 18, sn 5643n with military style numbering

In general the 1920 date stamp indicates manufacture in 1920. The 1920 and 1921 dated Lugers are almost always found in the ns, a and b serial range and the lazy C/N is almost always confined to the Imperial Era. A few Weimar Era Lugers serial numbers defy logical standard sequental production and explanation. Your 1920 dated Luger is in the n suffix serial ramge, and bears a lazy C/N proof. (See page 15, Weimar Lugers)I would guess that your Luger is the result of odd-ball Weimar Era rework/production and out of sequence serialization.

Does your Luger have the remains of a magazine safety?
Jan
Photographs would help
 

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No, it doesn't have an active magazine safety, nor does it appear to have been cut for one at any time in the past. THANKS Jan, as always, I deeply appreciate your replies. Regards, Dom Pastore Jr.
 
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