[Guest]

I have a Luger in fair shape with all matching numbers except for the barrel. OK, above the triger guard there is an O with a "tail" from the lower left and upper right, above that is "GERMANY" and above that is 2721, The barrel is marked 77402 and has a N with crown over it, also located on left side above the takedown lever.The toggle has the DWM in script and there is no date stamp. The safety is marked (under) GESICHERT, and various small parts are marked 21 in the commercial locations. The grips are Rosewood & Stag, not very stock i would guess. No grip safety, and has provisions for the stock
Thanks, Alex

 

[Olefogey]

What question are you really asking?? From your description it is hard to tell what the History of this Luger is. Are there any German acceptance, proof marks on the right side of the receiver? The word "Germany" means this item was made for export and is possibly a 1920 commercial gun. It very possible that this was a 7.65 (.30 cal.) luger and someone changed the barrel to 9mm. By the way, is this gun .30 or 9mm?? I should have asked this first.

Dave

 

[Guest]

Hi Dave,
My question is; what do I have?
It is .30 cal, and has no marks on the right side of the receiver. What (if anything) is the "funny" O above the front of the trigger guard about? The proof mark on the barrel ( N with a crown above it) is also located on the left side of the frame and on the bolt, those ar all the marks numbers or proofs that I can find. Thanks, Alex

 

[Olefogey]

Alex,
You have a 1920 Commercial that someone has replaced the barrel on.The funny "o" you are referring to is the serial number suffix. Luger serial numbers never went over 9999. After they hit 9999, the next set went from 0 up to 9999a, then 9999b etc. I may have this wrong, but under the Treaty of Versaille, the Germans were not allowed to have guns with 4" barrels or longer. If I got this right, yours is probably about 3 9/16" long. All the Germans had to do was change the barrels on their Lugers to make them legal. Actually all you have to do to change the caliber is to change the barrel to 9mm. I wouldn't do that though...it really destroys the collector value. What you have to do is find a set of un-numbered grips to make your gun "right". If any of you guys out there see something wrong with what I have said feel free to correct me!!

Dave

 

[Guest]

Allright! Thanks Dave, It's nice to have my thoughts confirmed as far as I.D'ing the Luger. Yes, the barrel is under 4", (96mm.or 3.78" from tip to chamber). I will start the hunt for some grips. Thanks again,
Alex

 

[Ron Smith]

Dave, Could'nt have been said any better.

Ron