[Guest]

Hello:
Friend of mine just acquired an old luger with DWM MARKING.
The serial number is 2179 with a written form of a under.Found on the underside of the barrel and frame.
The barrel is 6 inches.
Proof markings indicate is is a navy.
The luger has been registered by the government of canada as pre-1914.
A rather unusal marking is found on the rear of the grip.

It is W.K.1427.As the frame has the same number as the arrel is this some navy marking?
Photos will be down loaded and sent shortly.
My friend is really interested in the history of this luger and would like any help available.
Matelot in Canada

 

[lugerlou]

Matelot

Welcome to the forum, as the Government of Canada has the whole firearms registry in a state of disarray one should not assume that the registry is correct.

The barrel length is correct for a 6 inch Navy as is the WK mark on the rear grip strap. WK - Werft zu Kiel --Dockyard at Kiel Imperial lugers-Jan C Still.

Can you post photo's of the back of the grip to see whether the luger has a grip safety and short of that one of the sear safety in safe position and a shot of the top of the chamber if the luger does not have a grip safety.

Their is some extremely qualified individuals with extensive knowledge on the navy luger on this forum and your post will bring out the best in them as a Navy luger in Canada is extremely hard to aquire.

Looking forward to the photo's.

 

[Guest]

Thank you for the reply.
As soon as we figure hout how to get these photos on this board you will see them.
Am I correct in thinking this is an Imperial PO4 luger?
Old as it is it seems to have been fired very little.
I am certain some people here will be able to give us more history.
Matelot

 

[lugerlou]

Matelot

Post changed as I just reread the first post with serial number and suffix letter (a).Will wait for the photo's or more information on the grip safety question.

Not very likely with your serial number that the luger will be a 1904 Fat Barrel.

 

[lugerlou]

All

Matelot has sent me two pictures to post for him, although the pictures are not quite what we need to help him Identify his friends luger it is a start and I have asked him for more closeup shots of the markings.

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So far it looks like a 1906 with the grip safety, the Crown/M proofs that should be evident are unclear unless some of you fellows can clean up the photo's. Thanks James

 

[Jan C Still]

James
Although the proofs are unclear, three marks that are likely the three Navy proofs are barley visable in the photograph.
Jan

 

[Guest]

Photos with navy proof markings will be on the board shortly.
In the meantime,where would one find a trigger plate and mag for this luger.
Oh yes of course it does have a grip safety.
Some very clear photos on another website indicate this is very likely a 1906 imperial navy luger.
Matelot

 

[lugerlou]

All

Here is another photo of Matelot Navy luger, in this one the Navy proofs are clear but as you can see the side plate is missing.


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It is unfortunate that the plate is missing as others will be difficult to find.

 

[Guest]

Is there any one with ides on obtaining a suitable trigger plate and magazine for this 1906 luger.
Ideas my friend lives in Alberta,
matelot

 

[Heinz]

I believe these parts can both be sent by mail with no rstrictions. Since the side plate will be a replacement I would look not look for a matching number, but you might consider buying one where the finish is poor and having the number on the plate filled in by TIG welding and then having the part reblue. I would suggest an unnumbered civilian style magazine, one of the 9mm marked bottoms would be contemporary with the piece and not outrageously expensive although it might cost $150 US. Tom Heller(lugerdoc) is a supplier for the parts. Ted Green (Thor) might do the filling and rewelding.

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the info
however does any one know of a gunsmith /collector in the Edmonton Alberta area who could help.
matelot