[1933 FORD NUT]

Always found the sloppiness of the E2 markings in the upkeep of chipped dies and multiple stamps very interesting .

Adding a holster E2 that deserves front page listing

If anyone else finds this interesting please add pics [ stole these here ] as I am not good with cameras or these PC's .

 

[1933 FORD NUT]

Pete , Yessir - at least a triple . REALLY interesting to see the " pigeon toed " E2 left foot on a left proof . Center proof looks well struck with a defective die . Look at the right wing . Right proof looks good other than the little chip missing from the right outer wing bottom . Barrel proof looks to have been some shattered remnants of dies held together with something and then pounded hard . Frame proof is only missing some of the right wing . THANKS A TON as this kinda silliness is great to me !!!!!!! Yes on the shelf thing . Dave

Actually was enjoying the goofed up dies enough to not notice the 1937 sn 7583 bit . Kinda outta place ?

 

[1933 FORD NUT]

34 and parts

I would be real interested to know if this example has a four point reject star in the front frame well . Seems guns with this have oddities .

Looking at the proofs you would expect a higher serial # and a 1938 date .

Notice how well the mag matches others close to it on the list . NO QUESTION on that one IMHO .

 

[1933 FORD NUT]

Pete , Same thing proof wise . Ad for the second one says " touched up " and " re strawed " and it shows . Mag smells bad also . Again I would suspect there may be a four point reject star in this frame well also . Both would need an in hand CLOSE look before saying much more . No documentation to back the four point reject star marking but I have seen it before . My SN 8309 1937 has it and it has oddities . Not these though .

 

[1933 FORD NUT]

Here's a couple more in the white barrel proofs . Having a hard time catching it but the barrel proofs are THROUGH THE BLUE on these also . No mistaking it under high magnification .

This is a direct contradiction to Gibson page 124 .

Pics are 6624 and 8309 .

Odd that he missed this as it is pretty obvious if you are looking for it .

Definitely not the first ones I have seen like this and I always thought it was normal on guns that were not " fluffed up " . You may have to clean it out if full of crud or the HIDE IT paint .

 

[1933 FORD NUT]

Pete , Yes on the mess and look at post 1 right pic of 8910's barrel proof . How is that even possible ? Some of these barrel proofs look like the inspector tilted the die right and hit it and then tilted it left and hit it again . The ones like that are deeply struck on both outer edges and with the curved surface of the barrel that would make sense but some like your posting and 8910's mess who knows ?? Again 8910's looks to only be possible with a shattered die ????????????? AND 3981 as you said is just a mess !! Dave

SN-3981 (36-Date at Simsons LTD). Barrel proof seems like a real mess.
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[1933 FORD NUT]

Scary looking to say the least . Bet they wanted BIG$'s for that gem .

 

[1933 FORD NUT]

This is well struck for a tool but as you can see the stamp has chipped out areas and a trace of peening . Pic is not straight on and with it being well struck it looks a little distorted but straight on it is not . Not good with cameras yet but I am trying . This " splayed leg " type E2 is not normally seen on mag bottoms but if you look on pages 91 and 92 in Gibsons book you will see many on gun parts .


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I am going to start adding messed up tool E2's to this post to keep them in one place . Third pic is a really messed up E2 and pic's 4 and 5 are taudelts and " old half wing " sure applies to it's E2 .
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[1933 FORD NUT]

mags with the same chipped out E2

Interesting little string of mags with matching chipped E2's .

ADDING - mag 4268 pic - thanx Pete
ADDING - mag 4842 pic the + is bogus but the mag is good
ADDING - 8/1/17 4724 and 4288
ADDING- 8/21/17 ​4627

 

[1933 FORD NUT]

Nicely doubled mag E2 on mag 10848 . Triple click for a good look .

 

[1933 FORD NUT]

Right receiver and barrel proofs on 1936 sn 6624 . Barrel proof is the broken and mis-aligned type . Right E2 is chipped out and has another below it .

 

[1933 FORD NUT]

1937 sn 8587 with a really messed up barrel proof .

Pics are not good but you can see it has a halo [ that's good] and is multiple struck with a broken die .

Frame E2 is missing it's upper part .

The right receiver E2 is missing most of it's R wing .

Left E2 is messed up also but not clear enough to tell anything other than it's L side is too wide [ double struck probably ] .

Pics thanks to Pete's magic as I couldn't get them off the internet .

Dave

 

[1933 FORD NUT]

Right pic is the E2 from mag 5834 . It is heavily double struck and slightly rotated on one of them . Look at the right upper wing tip , the feathers and the 2 especially . Right pic is a clean example .

 

[1933 FORD NUT]

​Added a couple more messed up tool E2's in post 24 .

 

[1933 FORD NUT]

Here's a couple dandys from Gibson , Center proof hit FIVE times and when it was finally hit good it was tilted right a bunch . Chipped feather also . !!!

 

[1933 FORD NUT]

1938 10019 real bad stampings

​Here's a rare HK with seriously messed up Eagles .

 

[1933 FORD NUT]

Hey Pete , Looks like the left E2 is a pretty close match . No comment on the bluing though .

Dave,

Here is a close-by one (SN-10012) proofs photo :
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[1933 FORD NUT]

holster E2 double stamped

​Here is a 1936 holster with a very interesting E2 .

 

[1933 FORD NUT]

LOL - LOL

Or blind or ??????

DEFINATELY something wrong though as the sloppiness is off the scale .

Wondering if Inspector E2 had a drinking problem ???...

 

[1933 FORD NUT]

Pete ,

Barrel proof is a classic example of hit it tilted left and then hit it tilted right . With a gap so the eagle has 2 heads .

Reciever proofs are all at least doubled faintly .

Sure don't see many that are all clean and intact .

SN-4213 (S-Code) just starting to see some loss of feathers and a little die-bounce :
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