[saki302]

Hello!



I got to check out an Erfurt Luger today, I don't recall the toggle date, probably 1913-1915.



It had a marking on the front strap, Pi.S 48, crossed out. I'm assuming it might be a vopo rebuild since it's refinished and the toggle doesn't match (front half force matched). Side plate looked forced matching to me.

Can you tell me any more about this luger? It had wood grips unlike most of the plastic vopo ones I've seen, but the refinishing and force matching seems vopo to me.



Thanks!



-Dave

 

[jps-s]

How about a few more photos of the Luger? That would help everyone see what you have. Thanks, Jim

 

[Edward Tinker]

I think folks rely on east german or russian grips a bit too much. Its been in the USA for a number of years, and new repro or old grips could be added.

 

[PolishX]

Well it's not a Police marking I can see in either of the 2 more recognized references I use so thats puzzling to me

 

[Navy87Guy]

Well it's not a Police marking I can see in either of the 2 more recognized references I use so thats puzzling to me

Which references are those? (I’m trying to expand my library.)

 

[PolishX]

Which references are those? (I’m trying to expand my library.)

Writ in Steel (Maus) & Police Lugers (Tinker & Gruber)

 

[Vlim]

If you take the first and last letter of Polizei, you would get Pi, a method which is similar to Su for Spandau, for example. Or Kl for Kassel.

So my best guess is an early post war police marking.

 

[saki302]

Hello, sorry for the long delay!

I was able to get some better pics of the markings.

https://i.vgy.me/Nftp3B.jpg

https://i.vgy.me/SQy9Lc.jpg

https://i.vgy.me/ShNV0G.jpg

https://i.vgy.me/qgaoYu.jpg

https://i.vgy.me/OBySfM.jpg

https://i.vgy.me/7uWzin.jpg

https://i.vgy.me/qYRQyZ.jpg

Thanks!

-Dave

 

[johnboy]

VoPo rework. Not a police gun while in German use. (At least not the receiver, & no mag safety cut) Assembled from cannibalized parts. Need to see the receiver proofs on the right side. Breach block is late war Mauser. Simson frame and barrel, Erfurt middle link.

 

[saki302]

Not sure why I didn't upload, here's the proofs on the right

https://i.vgy.me/DNNXyQ.jpg

I figured it was a vopo, are the wood grips correct? I thought they usually came with tho plastic ones.

Thanks!

-Dave

 

[infanterist2]

Oh, Simson acceptance...!
Your gun is not an Erfurt Luger but it's a rate Simson (without the original toggle).
For that the markings are from the Reichswehr-aera...