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Try this again. Would appreciate any info since I focus on police and military, not so much commercial, but this really caught my eye. S/n 98051b? on slide. 8051b? on barrel and frame. E/N on barrel, slide, and frame. WaA140 on barrel, MR on barrel and frame. Triangle P thing on rear of slide. Have both still's and Vanderlinden's books on order, but will take while to receive. Any and all information would be greatly appreciated.

PS. Any suggestions for a lose trigger pin would be greatly appreciated as well.
 

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A nice "commercial", and based on the serial number, fairly late in production era. I recall the mid "c" block is the end of the German manufactured M1922.
(although the gun's features do seem kind of "c blockish....) Maybe that "b" is really a badly stamped "c".
These are interesting guns. Nice !
 

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Hello,

Can you be more specific with your questions? Also where did you order my book? I am always curious...

Nice piece!
Thanks
Anthony
 

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I apologize this was after several attempts at posting so it was simplified out of aggravation. The little research I've done on the gun since getting it yesterday shows it is relatively rare. I was curious if they are actually rare and if the one I have is correct for these variations. I'm happy with it no matter what, but wanted to know if where I bought it from just didn't know what it is since it was so cheap. Cheaper then most military ones I see with and without the black grips. If there's anything else that you could tell me about it maybe year or anything of when it was made would be nice to know too. Like I stated above, this is my first commercial variant of any wwii gun I've owned and don't know much about them. I bought your book from Mike at shooting gallery books out of New York. Can't wait to get it.
 

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Hello,

I see nothing wrong with it, very desirable as it has the late war rough machining. It should have been more expensive than a military as only a fraction were commercial. We call it commercial, which does not necessarily mean that it was purchased or used by a private individual. PS: Mike is a great guy!
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Thank you for the response. I received your book today and so far have really enjoyed it. Was even signed by yourself which was a very pleasant surprise. Wasn't expecting it to be. Had one follow up question. Would you be able to ballpark how many commercial guns were made by year? Saw serial numbers and everything but was just curious if it was possible to give an educated guess especially for my s/n. Thanks and wish you a speedy recovery.
 

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Thank you for the response. I received your book today and so far have really enjoyed it. Was even signed by yourself which was a very pleasant surprise. Wasn't expecting it to be. Had one follow up question. Would you be able to ballpark how many commercial guns were made by year? Saw serial numbers and everything but was just curious if it was possible to give an educated guess especially for my s/n. Thanks and wish you a speedy recovery.
Sorry, I really can not, even with my extensive databases, it varied extensively. The one thing that has surprised me is how late these were made, some of the very last shipments were commercial guns. Instead of declining, demand seemed to increase! I list a percentage in the book (somewhere) about how many commercial guns were produced compared to WaA140 pistols, that was a calculation that I did years ago and still believe to be accurate.

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Here is my data base on the commercial FN 19/22. Sorry, it is in German.

Fritz

FN 10/22 „zivile“ Ausführung

Abnahme Adler/N

60414
72609
94820 ( schießender Mann )
100003
120701 ( unüblicher Adler Stempel )
143642
163376
173522
176500 ( unüblicher A/N Stempel )
177573
177674
177758
186018
213792 ( mit jeweils einem zusätzlichen WaA-Stempel )
3887 a
41990 a
85304 a ( schießender Mann )
86364 a
89708 a
90001 a
90171 a
95465 a
6041 b
10760 b
29219 b
29520 b
34018 b
56282 b ( schießender Mann )
62565 b
62662 b
62789 b
83625 b
85112 b
85187 b
85283 b ( schießender Mann )
85356 b
87187 b
88164 b
91308 b Lauf mit WaA 140
98051 b
98349 b
1400 c
9253 c
37113 c
39253 c
41671 c


-------------------- ab hier alle Pistolen nur mit Adler-Stempel abgenommen

66190
91884
99379
101575
101591 Lauf mit WaA 140
123510
137764
186021
200937
23558 a
67963 a
81574 a
81617 a
8391 b
10616 b
29134 b
43882 b
53599 b Lauf mit WaA 140
59728 b
62932 b
72621 b
85152 b Kunststoffgriffschalen ( nachträglich angebracht )
91117 b
98134 b ( schießender Mann )
9089 c ( schießender Mann ) Lauf mit WaA 140
 

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Thanks Fritz! I hope you do not mind if I incorporate it into my data. Note that I observe WaA140 marked barrels on all, or just about all. I assume that your extra notation indicates those where you saw the WaA140 barrel?
Thanks again
Anthony
 

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Definitely following this thread, if anyone is still keeping track of these I have “commercial” #10890a test eagles only (no E/N) on frame, slide, and barrel. WaA140 on barrel.
 

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Definitely following this thread, if anyone is still keeping track of these I have “commercial” #10890a test eagles only (no E/N) on frame, slide, and barrel. WaA140 on barrel.
Thanks all, if I have enough serial data, I may add it to the next edition to show how these were spread throughout manufacture. Please keep it coming.

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Fritz - Anthony, I own 7699c ,,Zivil" (commercial - Eagle N proofs only including the barrel) that is minty with black Bakelite grips, blued mag with the FN logo only...nothing on the spine. Stay well, Jim Cate
 

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Here's my commercial rig; 213792 with ersatz laminated paper holster

Mike
 

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