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Gentlemen : This example pictured here is my candidate for the Bulgarian FN HP. Few facts are available so speculation follows but rational reasoning can reduce it down to a matter of accepting logical deductions. If we can accept that this holster is Bulgarian and was made in the WW2 time frame then we have a platform in which to launch into the other half of the problem. Which is , what pistol went into this holster ? This holster is clearly made for the FN HP but only recently has been identified that the Bulgarians did ,in fact, use the FN HP through the discovery of these holsters. We then can ask ouselves, if no other candidate has been found or identified, then what pistol did they use ? I have come full circle on this reasoning but the following pistol is my candidate for the German ally. Comments are expected and encouraged.

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143.67KB Inside the flap is an oval ink stamp which is aged enough to preclude any deciphering.

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144.82KB Perhaps it is only me, but I have not remembered seeing this stamp before. It appears to be a open bottom triangle with the letter J inside it.

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121.49KB I do not accept the above pistol to be a commercial sales gun . There are a number of eagle N proofed FN HP's known that are , in fact, a commercial sales weapon but a weapon with military test proofs is not one of them . This pistol represents a military weapon that has under gone production and testing under German controlled facilities and authorities BUT not paid for with German funds which a waffenamt stamp would represent, but because it has the test proof only and not the waffenamt , this is still a military weapon but paid for by other than German funds . It simply did not go to a proofhouse for testing but instead accepted military standards. This pistol represents a sales purchase by a outside element whose's need and access to weapons of this nature would be over and above the best interest of Germany herself. What other pressing objective would there be but to armed your allies sufficiently to counter the same enemies. If this example is not a Bulgarian pistol, then I have to ask, what did they use ?
 

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My real bottom line basis that I would have a tendency to agree with you that a "contract" would be of little sense is the seperation of serial numbers from one example to the other. I could understand a few thousand but 60,000 is another matter, mainly because we see so little of these Bulgarian FN holsters. Even in Bulgaria , they are scarse. So , what did they use ? Waffenamt pieces ?
 

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My real bottom line basis that I would have a tendency to agree with you that a "contract" would be of little sense is the seperation of serial numbers from one example to the other. I could understand a few thousand but 60,000 is another matter, mainly because we see so little of these Bulgarian FN holsters. Even in Bulgaria , they are scarse. So , what did they use ? Waffenamt pieces ?
 
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