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Mark
Gentlemen,

I have updated my research on P.38 grips for anyone interested, here is the link. The new report is easier to read and more comprensive than the old one. Please let me know what you think.

Mark

http://www.p38guns.com/Gripinfo.htm
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RockinWR
Mark,
* Just keeps getting better & better.
* Thanks for your time, research, & thoughfulness in providing this to the membership.
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P
Mark,
Good work.
Almost makes me want to start collecting P.38's.
Need to win the lottery first.
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J
In WALTHER part you wrote:"Z3 is the composition of the bakelite"
In SPREEWERK part you wrote:"Z3 Trolitan-Presswerk, Weiskirchen, Trier, Saarland."
What is true??
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Mark
Jan,

According to my notes and the article by Dieter Marschall the Z3 under the MD stands for "Bakelit" - a "duroplast" consisting of phenol resin mixed with wood chips or textiles and then pressed.

The other information I have is that Z3 is also a special code granted by Materialprüüfungsamt Berlin - Dahlem for Trolitan-Presswerk, Weiskirchen, Trier, Saarland. I don't believe this manufacturer ever made grips for the P38 but was put in as a point of information. As far as I have seen V7 or Carl Walther, 38 or Allgemeine Electricitats-Gesellschaft (AEG) firm of Henningsdorf (Osthavelland), 1W or the Julius Posselt company and Durofol KG, O. Brangs & Co were the only manufacturers of bakelite grips for the P38.

Mark
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Mark,

Please allow me to echo "RockinWR's" comments above.Thanks for your time and effort in this research, and your generosity in sharing it.

I guess I'd better start going through my P.38's this afternoon!

Charles
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F
Mark,

are you in possession of the listing of all the published German producers?
If not, I'll post them in the next days.

Fritz
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Mark
Fritz,

That information would be very welcome especially if you had a list of all the MD codes.

Mark
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Joop van de Kant
Mark,

My second passion is the P.38. And grips were a nightmare, lots of questions and few clear answers. Thank for sharing your findings with us. It helps a lot!
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Mark said:
and Durofol KG, O. Brangs & Co were the only manufacturers of bakelite grips for the P38.
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Mark, Gentlemen,

just recently I made a trademark search. As a bycatch, I hooked two fishes I wasn’t fishing for. No big fishes, but maybe interesting anyway for you and the Walther boys.

Both trademarks do contain the word “Durofol” and were applied/registered by Durofol-Kommanditgesellschaft J. Brangs & Co., Henckelstrasse 39, Solingen for a couple of goods, i. a. for “Teile von Schußwaffen” (parts for firearms).

German trademark # 545932 “Durofol” (word mark) was applied on 6th May 1939 , registred on 1st June 1942 and published in German “Warenzeichenblatt” (Trademark Gazette) 1942, page 1164.

German trademark # 667,663 “Durofol logo” was filed on 17. March 1942, but due to the war the trademark application was published after the war, i. e. on 17. July 1951, and it was registered on 15. June 1955. Shown is the publication of the application (the registration is the same, except for the trademark registration number not present on the publication of the application).

So, the info Mark was relying on (Darrin Weaver's book on the G/K43's called Hitler's Garand. Pgs. 166-168 discussing the Durofol handguards) is correct in the major points: maker is Durofol Kommanditgesellschaft J. Brangs & Co. (KG is the abbreviation of Kommanditgesellschaft = limited partnership). The only detail not correct: it’s J. Brangs, not O. Brangs. I made a further search for any info on J. Brangs, but I only found some patents and German Gebrauchsmuster, respectively, dealing with scissors of a Julius Brangs jr, Henckelstr. 39, Solingen. As the address is identical (Henckelstrasse 39, Solingen), I believe, Julius Brangs jr. is the man behind Durofol (which changed its name in the late 50s to Durofol Presswerk GmbH, but that’s an other story).

Regards

Martin
P.S: the list of goods (very long) of the Durofol “logo” trademark is the same as the one of the Durofol “word” trademark – I just shortened it a little bit.

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Mark
Martin,

GREAT information!

THANKS!

Mark
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