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A co-worker has asked for information on a Luger that her Grandfather brought back from France. I have not seen the pistol, but was provided with an excellent sketch showing all of the markings on the gun. From my reading on this forum, it appears she has a DWM manufactured alphabet commerical police. There is no chamber date, typical C/N commercial proofs, and the serial number is 84xx m. Last two digits of the serial number are stamped on small parts in standard fashion. Police markings are "SP.Bn.302.1922." with the 302 crossed out. I have already found an excellent post explaining the police unit marks. It is interesting to note that other "SP.Bn" marked pistols have at least one other crossed out number.

The mark I can't find information on is a crossed out 7,65 on top of the receiver. The pistol has a 9mm barrel with a C/N proof and the last four digits of the SN. It would appear it was a 30 Luger at some point, but I have been unable to find a 30 Luger (searched Simpson's site)that is marked 7,65 in the first place.
Anyone have any information or seen similar marks?

By the way, the pistol came with a black 1941 dated Otto Sindel holster, one wood bottomed mag marked 1 over 8777, and one Al bottomed mag marked 2520 c with an eagle over 63 accepatance mark. Perhaps the new mag came with the new holster.

Thanks for the help. This forum is awesome!
 

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"The mark I can't find information on is a crossed out 7,65 on top of the receiver. The pistol has a 9mm barrel with a C/N proof and the last four digits of the SN. It would appear it was a 30 Luger at some point, but I have been unable to find a 30 Luger (searched Simpson's site)that is marked 7,65 in the first place.
Anyone have any information or seen similar marks?"

I have observer the crossed out 7,65 stamp over the chamber of a Alphabet DWM Luger (Weimar Era). Costanzo shows one on page 339. It is a Luger in 7,65 caliber that has been rebarreled or rebored to 9mm.
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Donmaus,

I havn't actually seen the gun yet, and don't think I can describe a sear safety to my co-worker. I'll have to check it out sometime. Since the front strap markings indicate Bautzen Saxony police issue I haven't been too concerned about the sear/mag safeties.
 

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Professor Frink,

I take your point about the probable Saxon identification but knowing whether or not there is/was a sear safety (the mag safety is interesting but not all that significant) would either help confirm that ID or raise questions. I'm developing a database on Weimar Police Marks and this information would be quite helpful. I hope you can find out for me. Thanks very much.
 
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