[bayoned]

I'm going to take a second peek at an HSc this afternoon.
A VERY quick glance, unfortunately without the benefit of my better glasses, showed:
Serial Number 874xxx, or maybe it was 847xxx (approx)
Larger Marine eagle stamp (reading side-ways) on the front grip strap,
couple of eagle ? on the trigger guard webs,
Smooth wooden grips with no checkering, but they look original,
evidence of machining marks on both frame and slide,
Slide has a deeper and smoother blue than the frame.
All markings are crisp and clear and no evidence of re-finishing.
Couldn't find any WaA's on the slide, nor a serial number for that matter.
No WaA visible on the chamber part of the barrel that is visible through the ejection port.
No import marks, and comes with a German military made holster that has the marker's name on the back, (don't recall) next to the word "Erfurt". There is a large inked rectangular stamp on the inside, and it has a compartment for an extra magazine.
The magazine doesn't have any eagles or serial numbers and seems to have that late German phosphatey look to the body.
Overall finish is about 95%, but it does have a tiny amount of pitting around the muzzle on the slide.

I'm going to take GOOD glasses and a magnafier with me, and dissassemble it this time.

Price is $225.

What do you think, what should I look for, and what do you recommend?

Regards, Ned

 

[Ron Smith]

Ned, For that price, grab it! And worry about it later. You could re-sell it as a shooter, and make a few bucks. If you decide not to buy it. Let me know where it is.

Ron

 

[Orv Reichert]

BUY IT....

Then give us the details later!

Orv

Orvel L. Reichert
P O Box 67
Vader WA 98593
360 245 3492 tel
360 245 3702 fax
360 520 6520 cel
[email protected]

Quote.....The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. · --- G B Shaw

 

[Ron Smith]

I wish I knew how to do that!!

 

[bayoned]

Guys, thanks for your advice.
I bought the HSc this morning, and here are some of the particulars (can't pick it up until Wednesday, but I did get to field strip it to check the internal numbers))

Serial # 823583 (When would this piece have been produced?)
All matching numbers.
Large Navy Eagle sideways on the front grip strap.
Smooth wooden grips.
There is a WaA 135 (if memory serves me well) on one of the triggerguard webs, another eagle something on another web, and another on the front side of the slide. (small and delicate).

I can't find a WaA on the magazine, but the body looks phosphated.

The black holster is a military flapped style with an extra mag. compartment on the front side of the body.
The back is stamped "WILH. KLAGES ERFURT"
The inside flap is ink stamped with a long rectagle, inside of it is 4 Capital letters (looks like it could be NS??) then Erfurt, and a long word underneath both of those. Unfortunately, the ink spread makes it too tough for me to discern.

The finish is 95%, and the bore is VG+
No import marks.

If there is anything data-wise you seek, please let me know. I'd be glad to share.

regards, Ned

 

[Ron Smith]

Ned, Can you post photos? Sounds like you got screamin' deal! According to Col. Whittington, the highest Kreigsmarine reported was ser# 851330. Yours could be a scarce Navy issue. You have to be concerned with fakes, however. If you could post some photos. This forum is overflowing with people who could give you more info than you can use. Ron

 

[Orv Reichert]

outstanding deal!

There are a few questions:</u>

The block of reported guns #812809 to #829950 are all E/135 marked and none are KM marked.

There are NO KM marked guns recorded that also have the e/135 stamps. Could it be an Eagle over N?

The grips should be checkered but it was not unusual for them to get sanded if worn.

We need some good quality photos of the gun with [especially] a good close up of the GS with the KM markings!

Orv

Orvel L. Reichert
P O Box 67
Vader WA 98593
360 245 3492 tel
360 245 3702 fax
360 520 6520 cel
[email protected]

 

[Jan C Still]

bayoned
From your description you have a Variation 2 KM HSc (see page 172 Axis Pistols for details). As Orv stated, these do not bear the E/135 stamp. They bear the E/N commercial proof on the right trigger guard web, right side of the slide, and right side of the chamber.

Photopgraphs would be very helpful.
Jan

 

[bayoned]

I just got a new digital camera, and if all goes well......I'll post a number of pics of the gun and holster by next week.
Now that I atually have this piece in my possession, I believe that the grips are not right for this pistol.
I'll include pics of them on the gun, as well as off, and the inside of them. They appear to made in two pieces...the part that fits into the recess of the frame is a separate piece that has been neatly nailed and glued onto the "outside" part of the grip.
The wood is walnut.

Anyone have a set of HSc grips that would be appropriate for this pistol?

Regards, Ned