[Ron Smith]

I recently bought a re-worked police holster. I cannot find a date. The makers mark is an oval stamped upside down just above the tool pouch. The maker is: G SCHROTERS
NACHFIG.(?)
MUNCHEN
It is in excellent condition. Dyed black on the front. Back and inside are original brown leather.
Can anyone identify the maker, as to when they made holsters?

Thanks! Ron

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[lugerholsterrepair]

Ron , I am assuming you want to know the date span in which this holster was made? From what little I can see of it I believe it is a WW1 era. The BAXI stamp was used for Military issue during this time. I cannot see the back but I bet it is the WW1 style, so it would have to have been made sometime between 1914 and 1918.
By re-worked I am also assuming you mean the Police conversion. This was undoubtably done during the Weimar period. Converting a WW1 Army to Police.
I don't know of a source that would identify the length of time a manufacturer was making holsters. I would guess that kind of info would be lost to time even if there ever was a record .

Nice looking holster! Jerry Burney

 

[Ron Smith]

Jerry, I added a photo of the back. I guess the proper term would be converted, rather than re-worked. How is the back different on WWI holsters as opposed to the later ones? I have to credit Dave for the photos. I just stole them from his ebay auction.

Ron

 

[Edward Tinker]

Nice holster Ron!

Ed

 

[lugerholsterrepair]

Ron, Thanks for the photo. Yes, this is a WW1 era holster. You will notice there is no spine on the back of the magazine pouch connected to the back panel. WW2 holsters have two extensions WW1 holsters do not have, the spine on the mag pouch and the hinge that holds the top. WW1 holsters have a totally seperate hinge attaching back panel to top. There is also a stitching line that holds down the bottom of the inside liner on WW2 holsters. WW1 era holsters do not show this stitching line on the back center from left to right. These are the major differences in the two. This change took place sometime after WW1 during the Weimar period, I suspect around the mid to late twenties. 1923-1933 or therabouts but was not fully incorporated untill the Nazi's needed to make many holsters. Hard to say exactly because the transformation took place while few holsters were being made for Military use, old stock were being converted for Police use. I would say when the Germans geared up for the military the change came about in ernest. The SA probably had a pretty big requirement for holsters and 1933 was the year Hitler became Chancellor, immediately gearing up for war. Re worked or converted, I guess it's all the same...Jerry Burney

 

[Ron Smith]

Ed Thanks, I'm working on getting mostly matching rigs. And then I guess I'll stick-up some 7-11's, so I can start on another one.

Jerry, Again your knowledge on these things amazes me. I'll catch up with you eventually. Purty soon I'll be an expert. Qualified to identify all of the experts on the forum. I'm already good at milking all of the information I can get out of you guys.
This is like going to Luger college, only free...kind of?? The school supplies are killing me!!

Thanks! Ron

 

[Joop van de Kant]

Hi Ron,

I had a quick glance in the four books I have with lists of holster makers, Guess you did that also, because, no SCHROTERS shows up.
On one thing I can help you, that's the German word 'NACHF'.

It means that this firm Schroters has been sold, or that the children took over from their parents. So it read in full
'Nachfolger' = Continuation under the old name.

One question mark less.
Best regards.

 

[Ron Smith]

Joop, I don't have a book on makers. Thankyou very much for the information. It's the first that anyone has come up with. And thanks for the translation. I had never seen that word before.

Ron

 

[jcoe]

Hi Ron,
In Auto Mag 1997, (I think), on pages 277-299 is a list of holster makers that was compiled by Klaus Merzbach. He provided an impressive list of 228 makers/addresses observed over a 10 year span. Number 189 on his list is “G. Schroters Nachfolger, Munchen” and #188 on list is “G.Schroters, Munchen” . From information provided by Joop, apparently 188 and then 189 were the sequential names for this firm .
John

 

[Ron Smith]

John, Thankyou. That's interesting. They actually list the original maker. And then the 2nd generation. Kind of away of telling clients that G. Schroter has moved on, but don't dispare, business as usual.Still in the family.

Ron

 

[klaus 3338]

It´s a I. WW holster made by G. SCHRÖTER´S NACHFOLG. MÜNCHEN. B.A.XI means Bekleidungsamt for the 11. Armeekorps. As you can see on the further stiches is was altered for Police during Weimar time. Regards from Germany