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A Cone Hammer C96 with a 303 Westley Richards sight is considered quite rare. Is the pistol equipped with its matching stock?

Does the owner have any other early C96's in his collection?

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Albert B.
 

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I have encountered two early non-reinforced Westley Richards Cone Hammer C96 pistols in a three digit serial range (one being in an British retailer/dealer case with a Westley Richards cloth label) which have a standard 1-10 rear right, but it seems that the few other Cone Hammer pistols above the 4000 serial range could be purchased/ordered from Westley Richards with the rear sight of the owner's choice.

Bear in mind that serial number of a Cone Hammer pistol could indicate that it was manufactured in a particular year such as 1898/99, but did not go out the factory to an overseas dealer until 1902. The American representative of the Mauser factory around the same time as Westley Richards was VL&D.
 

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Hans:
This sight was required to import the gun into India. Westley Richards / Mauser made several variations of this sight that limited the sight's range to 300 Yards. This type of sight does not appear on any Broomhandles after 23000 and the practice was discontinued in the spring of 1900. Here is a copy of a Westley Richards 1898 letter which contains information on the 300 yard sight. It came from the India office records of the British Library.

Something to consider is that Arabic Script is also used in parts of the India subcontinent.

Interesting Pistol and thanks for posting. Like to know the translation once you find out.

-Mike
 

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This sight was required to import the gun into India. Westley Richards / Mauser made several variations of this sight that limited the sight's range to 300 Yards. This type of sight does not appear on any Broomhandles after 23000 and the practice was discontinued in the spring of 1900. Here is a copy of a Westley Richards 1898 letter which contains information on the 300 yard sight. It came from the India office records of the British Library.

Something to consider is that Arabic Script is also used in parts of the India subcontinent.

Interesting Pistol and thanks for posting. Like to know the translation once you find out.

-Mike
Hello Mike,

Thanks very much for providing this great information regarding the restrictions in India before 1900 which makes sense why Westley Richards marked the rear sight for import permission and limited the calibration for those pistols that were ordered by customers in India or any other foreign country that were using similar regulations. It can also be noted that the 50-500 calibrated rear sight started to be installed around serial number 8000, which happens to be installed on my Late Production 20-Shot in the 8100 serial range which were also special order pistols that were being assembled and sold until around 1906 as the cone hammer and safety improvement were evolving to the small ring hammer.

It is also interesting to note on the dealer's letter dated July 4th 1898 the serial numbers of other C96 Cone Hammer pistols that were sold to Indian citizens or British customers in India namely: serial #1412 in 1896, #1833 in 1896 and #2226 in 1897.

Thanks for the information which has helped to solve a long time mystery!

Cheers,
Albert
 
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Thanks all for the answers! It is a great information.

I found some about the inscription:
It is perian and it means Saed Bagher Rezah. Maybe the name of the owner in Iran...

I am also very interested in your opinions about the unusual long stock. Looks original and has a matching number..

Thanks in advance for posiible posts!
Hans
 
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