[john l lockwood]

hello and merry christmas to all. this is my very first attempt, please bear with me. i have only had my pc for two weeks, and i'm facing a very steep learning curve. i have before me what i believe to be a brand new, unfired, 1923 american eagle stoeger luger. according to state and fedral records it has never been registered anywhere. there are no sales records etc. i bought it at a local auction for $1050.00. it has a tan leather lanyard strap with a loop buckle. the lanyard is fastened to the pistols loop with two blackened split rivets. the holster is stamped inside theflap with a 1/4" number "31". under this number is stamped "hdw.kammer darmstadt 1918. also "made in germany" stamped in ink. comments please. john l.

 

[Edward Tinker]

Welcome John!

I am unsure of your holster, but sounds like a WW1 holster. Not being from New York, the idea of never being registered doesn't faze me, as many guns in WA, AL, LA and CO (where I have lived) have never been registered.

Can you provide more info on the Luger? Is it marked Stoeger? If so, then you got a hell of a deal, unless it is a reblue, then still not bad, but not wonderful of a deal.

Serial ny=umber, markings, proofs, etc?

Ed

 

[john l lockwood]

serial number is 7814, the right side of the reciever is marked in two lines "A.F.STOEGER INC NEW YORK". the receiver bridge is stamped/engraved with a lovely american eagle with chest shield etc. there is a star over N on the left side of the breech bolt where it connects to the first toggle link, and a crown over N on the left side of the receiver 1/2" behind the barrel mounting. there is a crown over N and the full s/n underneath the barrel. the last two digets of the s/n are only found on the back of the rear toggle link. the nose of the frame is stamped with the s/n and "germany" in 1/64 th" letters. the wood mag bottom is stamped"germany". this is either a very elaborate fake or-- the luger that fell to earth.

 

[Ron Wood]

"this is either a very elaborate fake or-- the luger that fell to earth." I have to agree. If authentic, you could be brought up on charges of grand theft, because you stole that puppy.

 

[john l lockwood]

hello ron; i find it hard to believe but this piece is virtually pristene/new, with only two blemishes--the arc of the safety detent, snd a tiny white shine on the leading edge of the side plate. there is what appears to be remenants of the origional packing grease in the area of the feed ramp. the mag follower is totally shiny with no scuff marks to indicate that cartridges had ever been inserted. the finish appears to be the origional rust blue, a beautiful semi shiny satin. the bore is perfect, and no importers stamp. the auction was a no reserve, everything goes affair. i was bidding against one other guy and he dropped out at$1000.00. i also gota nice 1934 mauser opcket model for $100.00

 

[George]

Dear Mr. Lockwood:

I live in upstate New York! Can I be your friend and attend the Gun Auctions with you?

I attended a similar auction that was an estate auction. There I purchased among other things a nice clean Mauser 1943 byf P38 for $176.00 and a very nice 1914 Mauser for $90.00!

It is nice to get lucky once in a while.

Regards,

George

 

[john l lockwood]

hello george; fyi the auction was in pleasent valley, just east of poughkeepsie. they were virtually giving stuff away. a very nice remington m1864 went for $900.00 (cap&ball revolver). by the way, if you or any other members are interested, i just received twenty five(25) brand new, never sold at retail, walther p-38's. they are all steel framed,dated 1960/1961,come with spare mag (still wraped with factory oil paper), and brand new holsters (black) and cleaning kits. the cleaning kits are about the size of a boy scout camp soap holder, and contain a "chain" pull-through oiler & brushes. i plan on using them as trade pieces for lugers/c-96's even or two-fer or three-fer one or equivelent value. anyone wishing to examine them let me know, and arrangements will be made. --john--