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For WWI era Eisenbahn-Betriebs (Railway). I suspect probably the same for WWII era. Not to many unit marked K dates out their. K date Lugers are one of my favorite Lugers.
 

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Does your pistol have a K date magazine?
 

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For WWI era Eisenbahn-Betriebs (Railway). I suspect probably the same for WWII era. Not to many unit marked K dates out their. K date Lugers are one of my favorite Lugers.
As for me also...love "K"- dates...mostly the 1st. & 2nd. sub - variations...they are always a puzzle, waiting to be unwrapped...at least a 90% original blued finish condition, w/the original stamped grips...you just never know when one will pop out of the closet, from somewhere...that is half the fun...

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For WWI era Eisenbahn-Betriebs (Railway). I suspect probably the same for WWII era. Not to many unit marked K dates out their. K date Lugers are one of my favorite Lugers.
Would you consider the unit markings a problem or rare find?
The age old question, "How do we know?"
Just concerned I'm making newbie mistakes.
 

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Your K date Luger is a bit of a mystery. It's the only one I have seen with unit marks. It's hard to tell from pic but I think I see halos on the grip strap where the numbers and letters were struck. The finish appears to be rust blue.
 

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Their are 300 early K date Lugers reported with Naval unit marks. And the rust blue finnish is correct for a early K date.
 

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Their are 300 early K date Lugers reported with Naval unit marks. And the rust blue finnish is correct for a early K date.
Sounds like good news.
We just need to figure out the unit markings. Any ideas where I can/should look?
My current materials are limited to WOL and History Writ in Steel.
 

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The “Arabic numeral + slash” means it is not a police marking, it has to be Reichswehr. The Heeresleitung (army command) issued their order to discontinue all unit stamping on January 11, 1934. I do not know how quickly that was implemented and how that meshes with the K date pistol timeline, and whether the Navy had their own cut-off.

Related to the suggestion above, “Eisenbahn-Bataillon” would be a possibility, in which case, following post-WW I stamping practice, the 1/ would have to mean first Kompagnie. Eisenbahn-Bataillone did exist during WW I, but I can find no reference for the Weimar-era Reichswehr.
 

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The “Arabic numeral + slash” means it is not a police marking, it has to be Reichswehr. The Heeresleitung (army command) issued their order to discontinue all unit stamping on January 11, 1934. I do not know how quickly that was implemented and how that meshes with the K date pistol timeline, and whether the Navy had their own cut-off.

Related to the suggestion above, “Eisenbahn-Bataillon” would be a possibility, in which case, following post-WW I stamping practice, the 1/ would have to mean first Kompagnie. Eisenbahn-Bataillone did exist during WW I, but I can find no reference for the Weimar-era Reichswehr.
Found these. What'cha Think?
Although I did not find and other unit markings in it, such as S.ST., S.B.M., and R.M.G.

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That occurred to me. The problem I see with that is that Ersatz-Bataillon seems too generic to stand by itself. Ersatz for what? During the war the E for Ersatz showed up in combination, like Ersatz-Maschinengewehr-Kompagnie, E.M.G.K. as a replacement/training unit for machine gun troops. A bataillon is not that large a unit, so even in the post-Versailles Reichswehr, it would have to be further specified.
 

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Wondering if anyone knows what this unit marking
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Wondering if anyone knows what this unit marking is?

Hi,

Finally got the gun in hand. Connecticut is taking a long time to process transfers.

The top half of the gun seems to verify being an early K-date with S proofs.
The question is the unit markings on the front grip strap.

Is there a way we can verify the lower is K-date?
Please see notes between the included pictures.

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S 84 matching #s. Are these typical serial number fonts in the correct locations?



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T proof.


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Showing toggle does not extend past the frame and not "Mauser Bump"

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Magazine holds open but doesn't fit snugly.


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Bottom of non-matching magazine. Is this a K-date magazine?
 

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That occurred to me. The problem I see with that is that Ersatz-Bataillon seems too generic to stand by itself. Ersatz for what? During the war the E for Ersatz showed up in combination, like Ersatz-Maschinengewehr-Kompagnie, E.M.G.K. as a replacement/training unit for machine gun troops. A bataillon is not that large a unit, so even in the post-Versailles Reichswehr, it would have to be further specified.
Hi,
If I may ask, do you see anything in the new pictures of the lower that would help with authenticity?
Thanks
 

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As for me also...love "K"- dates...mostly the 1st. & 2nd. sub - variations...they are always a puzzle, waiting to be unwrapped...at least a 90% original blued finish condition, w/the original stamped grips...you just never know when one will pop out of the closet, from somewhere...that is half the fun...

Edward
Edward,
If I may ask, do you see anything in the new pictures of the lower that would help with authenticity?
Thanks
 

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Your K date Luger is a bit of a mystery. It's the only one I have seen with unit marks. It's hard to tell from pic but I think I see halos on the grip strap where the numbers and letters were struck. The finish appears to be rust blue.
Hi,
If I may ask, do you see anything in the new pictures of the lower that would help with authenticity?
Thanks
 
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