[Ron Smith]

I'm very unknowledgable when it comes to Krieghoffs. Did they issue their own loading tools? If so, were they marked accordingly? And, if so, what is the average value of a minty tool?

Thanks! Ron

 

[Jan C Still]

Ron
There are Luftwaffe accepted loading tools(watch for fakes, as many have been faked). The E/2 (early) variation is shown below(you must click on the photograph to see the eagle).

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Both the early and late Luftwaffe tool variations are shown on page 123 of Third Reich Lugers.

I would guess that a correct Luftwaffe loading tool would sell for $150 to $250.

 

[lugerholsterrepair]

Ron, Randy Bessler http://www.collectorfirearms.us/Luger items/LI-225.htm has one for sale on his site for $295.00 has a photo there too. Jerry Burney

 

[Pete E.]

Hi Ron,

Great meeting you at Reno !

Here are a few photos of an HK tool I picked up for my S-Code HK rig last year. I believe it is the 2nd. type of proof mark.

p.s. If you are developing a taste for things HK, I would highly recommend buying R. Gibson's book on HK lugers..new copies run in the $ 50-75 price range. Since HK lugers tend to be pricey, this great book will get you one step ahead of the game, knowledge-wise...

Simpson's have them for sale :

http://www.simpsonltd.com/Merchant2...e_Code=SL&Product_Code=BK110&Category_Code=BK

It allowed me to buy a $ 4K HK pistol with a high degree of confidence...last year...

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[Ron Smith]

Thanks Guys, I can't afford to branch out to HKs. Maybe someday. I was just reading about them and was curious as to how to ID a tool. If I should run across one. Were all Krieghoffs Luftwaffe issue?
Pete, It was good to meet you too. I'm hoping to make either the August, or even the November show. Had a good time. May even make it to dinner next time.
Thanks! Ron

 

[Navy]

Re: The Bressler Kreighoff tool...

I have seen it and returned it.

Tom A.

 

[Pete E.]

Hi Ron,

The August Reno show is usually a good one...a few less folks, usually.

Now is the time to book a room at the Hilton...

The November show can be very iffy weather-wise. Some of us have left early on Saturday morning...1-2 hours ahead of a snow storm that usually closes the passes or at least chain-restricts travel...not sure if you want to ride your motorcycle then...

 

[Ron Smith]

Pete, No,if I try for November it could get alittle dicey on a bike. In this part of the country, November is'nt good even in a 4X4. If the rain is'nt freezing. It's coming down so hard you can't see anything. I really do want to come down in August. Only I'll be alittle better prepared this time. Thanks for the Krieghoff info. I guess at least I can drool and dream. Ron

 

[klaus 3338]

I saw thousands of tools but never a tool like this one. Is it possible to see a photo from the top? Regards

 

[Pete E.]

Hi Klaus,

I am not sure what you mean by the "top"...

Do you want to see a photo looking at the top of the short "leg" of the tool ?

I will try to post photo(s) this evening...

 

[klaus 3338]

Yes pete the short leg. I "spoke" with Joop van de Kant about it and may be he could explain it better. My poor English....

 

[Joop van de Kant]

Ron, Pete, Klause,

I have exchanged some pictures of my tools with Klaus. One of them is a Luftwaffe LWA2 marked - Klaus thinks it is correct. He told me to look for two tiny scratch - like lines that run on top of the thumb handle of the tool. It is difficult to see these on the macro picture that I sent to Klaus; I would have to shoot another image focussing on the top of the 'handle'.
I will do that next week (we are leaving here for the weekend).

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[hessri]

Dear Collectors

I hate to be a stick in the mud. But, I agree with Klaus, I have nevers seen a tool marked like Peter's. The ones I have owned including the late marked tools the eagle 2 is small. Similar to the ones marked on the parts. Does anyone else have any other thoughts.

regards

ralph
haymarket,va

 

[Pete E.]

TD tool came out of a shop in San Mateo, CA...

 

[Joop van de Kant]

Pete,

Just a thought; could it be a tool issued with a Kü marked Luger pistol?

 

[ChannelIsles]

Originally posted by Joop van de Kant

Ron, Pete, Klause,

I have exchanged some pictures of my tools with Klaus. One of them is a Luftwaffe LWA2 marked - Klaus thinks it is correct. He told me to look for two tiny scratch - like lines that run on top of the thumb handle of the tool. It is difficult to see these on the macro picture that I sent to Klaus; I would have to shoot another image focussing on the top of the 'handle'.
I will do that next week (we are leaving here for the weekend).


Could these be the two lines you refer to?


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[Joop van de Kant]

Brendan,
Just coming back from a family reunion I had no time to take pictures of the two stripes that Klaus mentioned to me. I will do this tomorrow!
In fact, these are found just below the top of the handle on the back side of the top. Tiny scratches but indeed visible.

 

[automan1]

Hi Pete,

I have the exact same Krieghoff tool as you have pictured....purchased from Simpson awhile ago.

Bill

 

[Pete E.]

Bill,

Our tools have the LWaA 2nd. acceptance stamp, Stage II...as described by Gibson.

I guess the real question is whether this stamp is correct on a TD tool or not.

If these are only surfacing in the USA and not with fellow collectors in Europe; that may be worrisome.

Gibson on page 142 makes mention of "other" stamps...saying they "may exit, they have not been noted".

 

[automan1]

Pete,

I seen that note on pg.142....hope they are OK.

Bill