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KRIEGSMARINE BROOM, SERIAL NUMBER 349329.
During the early Nazi period (1933-1935) about 200 Imperial Broomhandle’s were routed to Navy service and Kriegsmarine eagle /M (1), (2), or (3) marked (See Axis Pistols page 151-155).


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Figure 1. This Model 1896/12, serial number 349329, saw use in both World Wars. It started its service as a Wartime Commercial with military acceptance stamps and was issued to the Imperial German Army. The 1920 property stamp over the right chamber (Figure 2)indicates issue to the Reichswehr. The E/M(2) and N9 on the left frame panel indicates issue to the German Navy during the Nazi Era.

This Broom has a shortened barrel, added luger type barrel band, pinned rear sight, lanyard loop removed, and a 7.63 added on the left side of the chamber. These are all characteristic of the Kriegsmarine Broom.


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Figure 2. Right side, Model 1896/12, serial number 349329. The manufacturing hallmark “Waffenfabrik Mauser Oberndorf” is above the right grip. It was manufactured in about 1916 by Waffenfabrik Mauser at Oberndorf. The crown over scriptic letter located on the right side of the chamber indicates issue to the Imperial German Army. Located on the top right side of the chamber is a 1920 stamp applied between late 1920 and early 1921 that indicates Reichswehr property. The pin that anchors the rear sight at 200 meters is visible.


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Figure 3. Details of left side markings. The 7.63 was added to indicate the caliber during the 1920s’ or 1930s’.


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Figure 4. Details of the E/M(2) and N9 pantographed on the left frame panel during the Nazi Era.. The N9 indicates issue from the Marinestation der Nordsee located at Wilhelmshaven.


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Figure 5. Kriegsmarine Broom, serial number 349329, as issued complete with 1939 dated KM holster, loaded chargers, and cleaning rod.


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Figure 6. Kriegsmarine Broom, serial number 349329, showing details of the holsters stripper clip pouches and cleaning rod pouch.


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Figure 7. Kriegsmarine Broom holster, back.


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Figure 8. Back of Kriegsmarine Broom holster showing details of the 1939 dated manufacturing stamp (xxx?/ Muchen/ 1939) and Kriegsmarine E/M(4).
 

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Hi Jan
Wonderful gun and holster !
I jump on your topic because i am on the way to buy a C96,normal barrel lenght, 9mm cal, small nine on the grip and the actual owner think the gun was in service in the kriegsmarine (there is a M somewhere, I am waiting for pics): it is possible than the "red nine" was on service too in the navy ? If yes, there is something special to check ?
Thanks by advance
pics on this topic soon as possible !
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Hervé
 

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Brooms sometimes have an M on the bottom of their barrel that is an inspection (workers)stamp that is in no way related to the Navy.

Good luck on the C96. Look forward to your photographs.
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Hi Fritz
thanks for the pics and details
I just receive a pic of the C96 : the pic is not clear but for the moment...what do you think about this one ?
I was wrong it's a big red 9 !!!sorry !
the stock is a copy


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more precise pics soon

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Hi gents
Well after checking, it's not a Kriegsmarine C96 !
Serial number 8207, full matching , no "new safety", commercial crown over U proof but strange for me there is no Imperial Army acceptance stamp !!!
Fake 9 mm ?


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Help me !!!!
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Volume I, page 37, lists the Imperial Army stamp on the right side of chamber, and the following "Distinguishing Characteristics" for a M1896/16 Red 9: Red 9 on grips, NS-new safety, tangent rear sight marked 50-500. Rougher fit and finish than earlier Mauser pistols.

Your description (below) does not describe a correct Red 9.

"Serial number 8207, full matching , no "new safety", commercial crown over U proof but strange for me there is no Imperial Army acceptance stamp !!!
Fake 9 mm ?
Jan
 

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Volume I, page 37, lists the Imperial Army stamp on the right side of chamber, and the following "Distinguishing Characteristics" for a M1896/16 Red 9: Red 9 on grips, NS-new safety, tangent rear sight marked 50-500. Rougher fit and finish than earlier Mauser pistols.

Your description (below) does not describe a correct Red 9.

"Serial number 8207, full matching , no "new safety", commercial crown over U proof but strange for me there is no Imperial Army acceptance stamp !!!
Fake 9 mm ?
Jan
 

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Hi Jan
I agree with you ! but the tangent sigth is correct (50/500), the finish is quit good, the barrel is a good 9mm bore. I am lost with this pistol. Any idea ? earlier version (serial number very low) ?
The pistol is in a very good condition, the internal barrel is mint : could be a commercial version of the 9 mm military ?
Thanks for your help
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Hi Jan
I agree with you ! but the tangent sigth is correct (50/500), the finish is quit good, the barrel is a good 9mm bore. I am lost with this pistol. Any idea ? earlier version (serial number very low) ?
The pistol is in a very good condition, the internal barrel is mint : could be a commercial version of the 9 mm military ?
Thanks for your help
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Jan, this kriegsmarine rig is awsome. Is the front site band permenently attached, or could it be removed? You said it was "like a luger," but did someone actually go through the effort of milling a band onto the barrel? Thanks, Ryan
 
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Hello Jan,

Congratulations on the fantastic Broomhandle Kriegsmarine rig. I must admit that I am somewhat lost with the military Broomhandles since my specialty is with the early Broomhandle pistols and carnines, so your input would be welcome. I have three questions:

1) Was the barrel shortened as a result of the Treaty of Versailles, or is the barrel length factory original with the band?;

2) As a result of the shorter barrel, does the pistol have a stock slot?

3) The large Navy markings which I seen on the frame of some M1934 Pocket pistols are different in style than compared to your Broomhandle? Why is this so?

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Albert
 

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The barrel was shortened (at an arsenal) and the sight band added.
Albert
“1) Was the barrel shortened as a result of the Treaty of Versailles, or is the barrel length factory original with the band?”
JS The broom was manufactured in about 1916 and bears an Imperial German acceptance stamp. The barrel was later shortened and a barrel band added. The rework was likely accomplished at a marine arsenal/armory during the early1930's.

“2) As a result of the shorter barrel, does the pistol have a stock slot?”
JS The stock slot remains.

3) The large Navy markings which I seen on the frame of some M1934 Pocket pistols are different in style than compared to your Broomhandle? Why is this so?
JS The same style of Navy marking is also found on the Mauser pocket pistols, see page 163, 164 and 166 of Axis Pistols.
The Eagle/M without swastika are early Nazi Navy markings. Those with swastika are later Kreigsmarine markings. See page 146, 151, 154, 156 and 157 of Axis Pistols.
Jan
 
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