[Ronnie_Fry]

First try at thread on this forum, so forgive mistakes, etc.
Attached are photos of Mauser Banner S/N 994, no suffix or prefix. E/N almost obscured by S/N, and is only proof mark that I can find. S/N is also on front of frame, but no marks on bbl. No proof marks of any kind on the right side. Clip has S/N only, no proofs. I can find little info on this variation, and would appreciate input from my better informed peers. TIA for your troubles!!



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[Edward Tinker]

Ronnie, looks like you posted just fine! Good presentation, description, etc.

Ed

 

[taudelt]

Ronnie.... Please see my post of 10/29/04 under COMMERCIAL...FOREIGN CONTRACT...1930-1942 Mauser. Mine is #2070...... looks like first cousins........ once or twice removed........... neat gun.........

 

[Ronnie_Fry]

Dave,
Thanks for your reply. Your luger looks great. You can tell they are kin. Mitochondrial DWM no doubt!!!
Some differences I would like to ask about.
1. There are small Eagles on the toggle and the front of the sight. What are those?? (None on mine BTW)
2. So are both of ours "Blank Chamber Commercials"?? Mine just earlier than yours by a bit, with some of the differences noted??
3. I note on pp 231 of TRL one very like mine, except has "P.08" on left receiver.

I guess the TRL speaks for itself, ours are Variation 4's eh!!

Ronnie

 

[taudelt]

Ronnie....... The stamps are Eagle over N which would be standard commercial proofs used after about April of 1940 and until the end of the war. Jan pretty well spells it out. Aparently some had proofs and some did not. One theory is that they were put together after formal production at Mauser had stopped. IMO there are too many for it to be a American GI thing. Some think the French after the war. Hopefully, people will find enough pieces to the puzzle to figure it out or at least come up with a decent WAG.

Love dem Banners........

 

[Guest]

Anyone gave any thought to French post war production???? I have Banner number 595 that certainly is comparable. Would bet a coke it fits the mold.

 

[Ronnie_Fry]

Don,
You know, that thought has passed my mind. Guess a little more research is the answer. Where, exactly, does the mold you use exist?? I'd like to see what the parameters are. Thanks for your input!

Ronnie

 

[Guest]

Several years ago a collector in France gave me a list of the French assembled Lugers in 1946. In additional I believe all this information was presented on this web site about a year ago.I'm not in a position to dig into my records but maybe someone will remember the information on the web.

 

[Edward Tinker]

Here is some research by Mauro on French LP08's;

http://www.gunboards.com/luger/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1415&SearchTerms

Here is one that was talked about as a French Banner:

http://www.gunboards.com/luger/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=478&SearchTerms

ed

 

[Ronnie_Fry]

quote:Originally posted by Weimar_Police

Here is some research by Mauro on French LP08's;

http://www.gunboards.com/luger/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1415&SearchTerms

Here is one that was talked about as a French Banner:

http://www.gunboards.com/luger/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=478&SearchTerms

ed

Ed,
Thanks for your pertinant input (as usual).
Now I am really confused. I'll have to take another look at this Banner. I do not recall any French Star, and I am sure no "P08" marks. It has nice wooden grips.
Is there another book that Mauro has written that covers this "French connection"? I have his artillery book, and page 91 --- well, it's in French, and I can't tell if it has info on Banners.

Ronnie

 

[LU1900]

Well Ronnie
Your luger seems to be a french one and the magazine is perfect some are unmarked with the sn and haven't fxo or 122 or P08 stamped.
In this link:
http://www.lehussard-librairie.com/catalog/default.php?manufacturers_id=10
the french lugers are describe in the n°09 T2.
If you want more tell me.
Merry Chrismas from France

 

[Ronnie_Fry]

quote:Originally posted by LU1900

Well Ronnie
Your luger seems to be a french one and the magazine is perfect some are unmarked with the sn and haven't fxo or 122 or P08 stamped.
In this link:
http://www.lehussard-librairie.com/catalog/default.php?manufacturers_id=10
the french lugers are describe in the n°09 T2.
If you want more tell me.
Merry Chrismas from France

LU1900----
Thank you very much for your reply. I looked at the link you sent, and must tell you that I cannot read French. I can get along in Spanish, but not French. Any translations of the articles you mention would be greatly appreciated. It doesn't have to be word for word, but get the meat of the subject.
Here is a photo of the clip. No markings other than the S/N

Thanks in advance for your time!!

And A Merry Christmas to you ALL!!

Ronnie

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[Edward Tinker]

Ronnie, I don't have time right now, but you can find pages on the internet that will auto translate webpages for you! They work much better than winging it, and work "ok", but give you the gist of the story.

Ed

 

[LU1900]

Hello Ronnie you are lucky your mag is all good the center pin could be remouved for cleaning and the stamping is correct.Some pin are blued some not it depends of the manuf. date perhaps but only 3500 max built.
Very nice one , congratulation. Pat