Guy, that is a very interesting photo, It sure looks like several are wearing that type of rig in the photo. Thank you, John

 

Bonjour Guy,
Please thank your friend for sharing those photos with us, the prototype stock is beyond rare and the holster is the first I've seen pictured.
Norm

 

WOW ! What a great rig. The holster doesn't appear to be the quality of German craftsmanship we are used to seeing.

 

Harry, The holster looks that way since it is more of a "bag" to hold the stock. It has to be somewhat roomy for extraction & insertion. You can see it's quite bulky.

But if you look closely at Guy's photo you will see it is VERY high quality. Just not overly formed like the standard Artillery holster.

Guy, I am at a loss for words on your photo's! In the MG photo almost everyone has one of these! Thanks for sharing. Like getting a good photo of a Unicorn.

 

Guy,
thanks for posting.
A most interesting rig and visual proof of use! We still find out new info- after 105 years!

Both stock and holster you show are in beautiful condition, amazing.

 

Now, this something really new.
I was aware of this version but never thought it was issued to the troops.

 

Since this wooden stock was considered a prototype, it could have been issued to a few troops for testing.

 

With the picture dated 1915, looks like the "prototype" was actually carried into use- some nearly 2 years into the war: as were others of the expedient and early design holsters.
But then why waste good equipment?

 

That is very neat!
i would love to get a set like that!
If these were issued even as a test item, as the photo suggests - shouldn’t we see more of the stocks and the holsters?

 

I can furnish you the stock and I bet Jerry could make a holster, otherwise get a second mortgage on your house if you find an original set for sale

 

Reproductions of the wooden holster/stock are available online from two or more sources; in addition to Harry.

 

Great pics! Thanks.

G2

 

Just in case you're thinking of investing in a real one, keep this price in mind. Heaven knows what a leather holster might be worth.

https://www.rockislandauction.com/d...m/detail/59/1400/extremely-rare-prototype-artillery-luger-combination-walnut-ho

 

Just in case you're thinking of investing in a real one, keep this price in mind. Heaven knows what a leather holster might be worth.

https://www.rockislandauction.com/d...m/detail/59/1400/extremely-rare-prototype-artillery-luger-combination-walnut-ho

To document for when the link expires,
the stock sold for about $15K against a $6k to $9k estimate.

 

Thank you all for your comments and congratulations to my friend .
Guy

 

If this was the financial show Mad Money, Jim Cramer would be hitting the WOWWOWWOW button!

 

We should all be hitting the WOWWOWWOW button for the historical value alone. It is not often that stark new photographic evidence surfaces. These pictures are a great find! Thank you for sharing.

 

Leather reproduction.

 

Leather reproduction.
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Is that one you had made or are there more available ?

Harry

 

I don't make leather holsters. There are already world-famous leather holsters and leather bag masters for this:
http://www.ledermanufaktur-zimmermann.de/seite7 eng.htm
http://www.ledermanufaktur-zimmermann.de/Seite44pistolenengl.htm

 

I don't make leather holsters. There are already world-famous leather holsters and leather bag masters for this:
http://www.ledermanufaktur-zimmermann.de/seite7 eng.htm
http://www.ledermanufaktur-zimmermann.de/Seite44pistolenengl.htm
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Thank you for the link.

Harry

 

Cool, thanks for the link.
Just for reference- 990 euro would translate to about $1200 including delivery.

 

It cost € 700 two years ago. Everything will be expensive.

 

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/859555487

no affiliation

 

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/859555487

no affiliation

A failed attempt to create replicas. A lot of money for no quality.

 

No wonder you can't get your 45acp, Eugene is too busy making stocks and holsters.

 

No way he made those; just imported from France and is reselling.
It would take him 5 years to make them, and he is not known for "leather".

 

Here are a few more photos to tease...

 

$1200 is a bit pricey for a reproduction. One man's chump change is an entire gun for another. What does Mr. Burney think about this?

 

Mr Burney was my Father. If I could actually think all that well I would have a real job. As it is..This is a fascinating subject and holster. Unfortunately the holster shown that is offered by Eugene is pathetic. Even a Japanese toy company would be ashamed of something like this.
The real deal is the one George shows in post #33. A very fine turn of the Century piece of leather fabricated by superior craftsmen of the old World. Not likely to be decently replicated in the 21st Century by me or Zimmermann & company. Some things are just rare and that's the way it is.

 

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Prototype-1...uger-holster-shoulder-stock/254463244174?hash=item3b3f30f78e:g:NQgAAOSwmeNeA4NL

 

another picture: