[Pancho]

What is the translation of "Behorden" ?
There is also a Sauer M1930 that is more typically identified with the term, Behorden, sometimes called the Behorden Model. I am not certain if the term has the same meaning on the Mauser and the Sauer. Would appreciate any info.
Also, can anyone direct me to a site, or a book, or provide info.,
verifying the meaning of the Unit markings on this pistol ?
Thanks

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[Lloyd in Vegas]

Pancho,

In Cate's book on J.P. Sauer on page 192 he discusses the refinement of the Sauer Model 1930 Pistol resulting in the Behorden Model (Authority Model). Maybe Behorden means Authority or Municipal market like the police market. The main differnce between the Model 1930 and the Behorden model is the addition of the trigger safety on the Behorden along with a magazine safety and loaded chamber indicator pin. Modifications that a police type authority/agency would be interested in. Hope this helps some maybe somone else can give us further insight--I have always wondered about the meaning or translation of the word into English also.

 

[Heinrich]

Hello Pancho,
the marking can be translated with "Polizeibehörde Hamburg..."

 

[luger08]

Hello Pancho,

the word "Behörde" (correct with two dots on top of the "o" and impossible to pronounce for english speaking people) is used for governmental or municipalty offices. It has no specific meaning when it stands alone, but is often used to name an office like "Strassenbehörde" for the office being responsible for the streets, or "Luftsicherheitsbehörde" for the office being responsible for the security in air traffic.

A "Behörde" is always an official office, it can not been hold by private persons or companies. A synonym for "Behörde" which is better known and easier to pronounce is "Amt", also used only in connection with official offices like "Waffenamt-Abnahme" (WaA) for the office being responsible of checking the guns produced in factories during WW2.

The term "Behördenmodell" has been officially used only with the Sauer model 1930 variation with the additional trigger safety, as desribed by Lloyd, but you will find it sometimes in old cataloges or advertisements also with other guns. Usually only to show the potential customer that the product is so good that it has been accepted by the governmental officials.

Greetings, Andy

 

[Pancho]

Thank you, men.
I was stumped.
You came through again.
That cleared it up.
Have modified the description on the photo.
Thanks again.

 

[Jan C Still]

Andy
I am a little confused. Is it approximatley correct to call/translate the Sauer Behorden as the "Authority Model"? If there is a more proper translation what is it?
Thanks
Jan

 

[luger08]

Hi Jan,

well words and languages.....

I assume that "authorities" would be the best fitting translation of "Behörde", but you know, I am not a linguist, of course I know what it is in german, but therefore english is not my mother tongue, so what to do ???

Maybe due to the internet we will all speak english in some future and then these problems will be history.

greetings, Andy

 

[axl]

Government model

 

[Marschall]

Hello.
as US-Americans tend to call their government "administration": how about "administration model" as opposed to "military" and "police"?
Dieter.