[Guest]

What is the story on the military accepted 1936 and 1937 Mauser Banner Lugers? I have seen two so far. I thought all the military Lugers were S/42 code in these years.

 

[taudelt]

Mark.... You need to get a copy of Jan's THIRD REICH LUGERS and read all about it. Lot's of interesting things happened to the Banners.

 

[Guest]

Thanks Dave,
I have all of Jan's books. Nowhere in THIRD REICH LUGERS (So far as I can find) is there any reference to the Banner P.08 being army accepted prior to 1940. This example is all matching inside and out. It has a 1936 chamber date, the mid '36 army test proof on the right receiver and barrel as well as two droop E/63 army acceptance stamps. It looks very original but I sure would like to hear from experienced Luger collectors on this before I take the plunge.

 

[lugerlou]

Mark

Examine the blueing very carefully between the toggle and the receiver/frame for a different hue.

 

[Jan C Still]

1940 is the main Banner Army date. There are some dated 1939 and one dated 1938. I would have doubts about a 1936. See page 140-141 Third Reich Lugers.
Note: these are easily faked by adding a banner toggle to a military code Luger.
See the link below for more information.
Jan

1940 Army Banner
* THREE 1940 DATED GERMAN ARMY LUGERS Jan C Still
------------------------- http://www.gunboards.com/luger/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=337

 

[Guest]

Well thanks everybody. Yall probably saved me a bundle on a put together Luger.
Mark

 

[lisik]

Guys,
Yesterday I saw a 1938 Military banner ser. number 9077 with two matching coded "42" mags. There was no commercial proofs on the left side of receiver, only military proofs on the right side. Is this also a fake with changed toggle link? I could not find a reasonable description or answer in J. Still's book on 3rd Reich Lugers

 

[Guest]

I have observed nearly all Military dates with Banner toggles. In my collection, I have a 1937, 1938 and 42-byf with Military acceptance and Banner toggles. Each of these pistols seem to be in the last suffix range of the transition to the next date. For example, one is pictured in Jan's Third Reich lugers. 1938 Military in the - n- suffix with a Banner toggle. As you remember the - n - suffix was the transition to the 1939 dated pistol. Is it possible that occasionally Mauser needed a few toggles and some came form the commercial division. certainly worked the other way around very often. Fake? I doubt it.