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Finally was able to find a Luger P.08 that comes with two original matching numbers magazines - and even better, it is a Simson & Co Suhl made P.08! It even came with its original 1936 dating Holster, made by a Berlin company and seems to had been painted black, which is already fainting. Inside parts are also all matching, including the grips - I checked it when I bought it. But didn't find time to picture this as well.

Looking forward to comments on it - and yes, it still needs a very good cleaning to remove the dirt it had seen from being stored in its holster since WWII. Previous owner by the way told me according to the origin it should be a former Feldgendarmerie pistol, carried by someone on a horse.
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Dave,
Looks like a pretty nice Simson. I see no indication that it was ever in police service. No sear safety, no magazine safety and no numbers 1 & 2 on the magazines.. Does the front grip strap have a police unit mark? If the story is the only thing bogus about your Simson, you did well.
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Super rig! Thanks for sharing...Bill
 

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Looks like a pretty nice Simson. I see no indication that it was ever in police service. No sear safety, no magazine safety and no numbers 1 & 2 on the magazines.. Does the front grip strap have a police unit mark? If the story is the only thing bogus about your Simson, you did well.
I did not intend to claim this particular pistol was made for the police. The acceptance stamps on it make it obvious it was a military production pistol. This, at least in my opinion, wouldn't outrule the possibility it saw usage among the Feldgendarmerie. These were basically "Military Police" in WWII.

And yes, I'm quite proud of this pistol. Thanks for the comments!
 

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Hello,

Some 0000 steel wool or better yet, bronz wool and oil will clean it up nicely.
It is a new number in my database. Any story in how it came to you? Deactivated?
2 matching mags, very ni ce, I have only a couple of them in my database.
Ref police - NOT all were numbered, stamped or received sear / and/or magazine safety. However, that said, almost always if a police, it would have a 1 and 2 on the base.

Nice simson I would be glad to own. (Oh, the small e6 on the right front means it was double checked by a manager or inspector from what we understand)

Ed

PS: Here are numbers that are close to yours, note the last police was almost 2 hundred away
6818Simson & Co Suhlsear & mag
6836e6 E6 E6 E6 ESimson & Co Suhl
6860E6 E6 E6 ESimson & Co Suhlno
6904Simson & Co Suhlno
6908Simson & Co Suhlno
6917E6 E6 E6 ESimson & Co Suhlno
6923e6 E6 E6 E6 ESimson & Co Suhlno
6943Simson & Co Suhlno
6971e6 E6 E33 E6 ESimson & Co Suhlno
6972E6 E6 E6 ESimson & Co Suhl
6992e6 E6 E6 E6 ESimson & Co Suhlno
7005E6 E6 ESimson & Co Suhlno
 

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Please, never steel wool. Bronze or brass (used on boats) will not harm the metal. And please ... a very light hand. They would soak old swords in oil for days to loosen the rust before they would touch them.
 

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Be careful with "scrubbing"....not a good idea with anything you use to clean with.....go easy if you do anything.

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I have several hundred additional firearms, I do know how to clean them. But thanks for the reminders :) . And no, the gun is live and fully working - I don't buy deactivated firearms!

Ed, thanks for the excerpt from your database. I did check it prior to the purchase and learnt back then that it wasn't previously listed. And regarding potential "Police" usage, refer to my second entry in this thread. Feldgendarmerie was Military Police, not normal Police. Plus this was only the information given by the previous owner - I didn't bought it because of that, but better to be told this than nothing!

May I ask how many of the Simson Lugers in your list come with two matching magazines, so I can calculate a % of total?

Please elaborate what "no" on the "sear & mag" with my serial number in the chart you had posted refers to. Thanks! Edit: think I wrongly read the chart of yours, assuming top line was a title .. please confirm. Thanks!
 

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Funny, my Simson #4893 comes with a "Otto Sindel 1939" Police Holster and on weapon no indicate to origin from Police ...
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SEE REMARKS :)
And no, the gun is live and fully working - I don't buy deactivated firearms! NO IDEA WHERE IN THE EU YOU LIVE, SO ASSUMED ENGLAND - Sorry about assuming

Ed, thanks for the excerpt from your database. I did check it prior to the purchase and learnt back then that it wasn't previously listed. And regarding potential "Police" usage, refer to my second entry in this thread. Feldgendarmerie was Military Police, not normal Police. NOT that I know of - but I know that police went with the SS


May I ask how many of the Simson Lugers in your list come with two matching magazines, so I can calculate a % of total? NO - i have not kept track mostly

Please elaborate what "no" on the "sear & mag" with my serial number in the chart you had posted refers to.
MY HEADER IS AT THE TOP OF THE LISTING I RELEASE - NO MEANS IT DOES NOT HAVE A SEAR OR MAG
 

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Funny, my Simson #4893 comes with a "Otto Sindel 1939" Police Holster and on weapon no indicate to origin from Police ...
Karl
Karl,
A similar funny thing happened with my Simson #685a. It has a sear safety, magazine and a matching police magazine and it came with an army holster.

Dave,

It is my understanding, that when the German Army mobilized in 1939, they conscripted from the national police force to make up the Feld gendarmerie. Their reasoning being, that these men were already familiar policing duties like crowd control, traffic control and keeping order. These men would have brought along their weapons. They did, on occasion, use regular army personnel, if the problem was large. These are the men that would have worn the green arm bands, while acting in this capacity.
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I've cleaned the pistol only, when finished I decided I'd do a few more pictures of it, including detail shots of the internal serials, etc. Please find them attached. I hope you enjoy those!
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