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Hi Pete, Lenny's rod is clearly Artillery length, but the handle dimensions should be identical to those on Navy rods.
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Hi Norm, Thanks for your reply. I was also confused by the Third Reich marking, but I received that rod and another one (per the photo below) from a very reliable source, so I still doubt it is a fake. Could it have been refurbished in Nazi Germany, by any chance?
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Hi Lenny, The Nazis did not use Artillery (or Navy) Lugers, they had little use for 25cm rods.
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Lenny, Norm is quite correct. Bad rod. VERY bad rod.

From a very reliable source, so I still doubt it is a fake. Lenny..your source has betrayed you.
 

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Even the most reliable sources and noted collectors have bad items on occasion. Even the best dealers make mistakes. Since they typically deal in a broad cross section, they cannot be expected to understand the minute details of every variation and accessory. Books are a great research tool, but few, if any, are error free. I have seen Imperial Navy Lugers from the best collections that are now known to be problematic.

IMHO every item should be viewed with equal skepticism, regardless of source, and must stand on its own merits.


Someone previously said this thread deserved to be a sticky. I agree, and now that I am a moderator I have made it so. As always, thanks to Norm for his support to the Navy community.
 

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Thanks everyone for the answers. However, I would really appreciate if you can share your opinion on the rod itself rather than the source it is coming from. IMHO, it is a bit unfair. A few points on the source though. I got both rods for free as I was lucky to find them and a few other accessories (K98 sling, P38 holster modified for a TT, STG magazine, Lahti rod, etc) in a box at a military warehouse that stores some items brought to the USSR from Germany after the war. I did not pay for them, so I really doubt someone would put a fake in that box on purpose. It is basically impossible to bring or take something from a military warehouse without a pile of accompanying documents. Hence, I would say my source is pretty reliable and trustworthy.
 

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Hi Lenny, I'm sorry I can't be more helpful. I don't know what your two rods are, but I do know what they are not, original unaltered Artillery rods.
Norm
 
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