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Hello, I am seeking any and all information (especially about value, production numbers, where they were used, and where to look for matching numbers) on Nazi Marked French MAB Model D pistols in 7.65 cal. I have recently found one in 60% condition at a gun shop, but I have no clue about this type of pistol, and information is not turning up easily. From what I have seen, they generally sell in the $150 to $350 range, and that there were about 50,000 produced with the WaA251 marking. Also, I have read that they were mostly used in German occupied areas of Western Europe (though there are accounts of them having been used on the Eastern front). The one I am interested in inludes the correct holster, and is going for $200 (it has the WaA251). Like I said, infomation is appreciated. Thanks a ton in advance!!!
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Longbranch,
I am not an expert on these but I can throw in my two cents.
The Germans occupied the MAB factory in June of 1940. There is some question when hardcore production really started. Maybe right away, maybe after the invasion of Russia started in 1941. It is thought that German production started in the 47000 range but I own MAB D 47666 with no German markings. Production ended near the 97000 range.
According to Jan's Axis Pistols, The serial range of 47000-86400 will have the WaA251 and those following will have WaAD20.
Prices will vary according to condition. They are not really rare so wait for a good one. The price on the one you describe is ok with the holster. Many MAB D type pistols were imported into this country, so study up before buying.
Good books are Axis Pistols, Col. Whittington's Vol 2 and Gene Medlin and Jean Huon's Military Handguns of France, which covers the French contracts well.
I hope this helps a little.
Dean

Just for fun, here is French Pre-war contract 47666
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Longbranch,
I am not an expert on these but I can throw in my two cents.
The Germans occupied the MAB factory in June of 1940. There is some question when hardcore production really started. Maybe right away, maybe after the invasion of Russia started in 1941. It is thought that German production started in the 47000 range but I own MAB D 47666 with no German markings. Production ended near the 97000 range.
According to Jan's Axis Pistols, The serial range of 47000-86400 will have the WaA251 and those following will have WaAD20.
Prices will vary according to condition. They are not really rare so wait for a good one. The price on the one you describe is ok with the holster. Many MAB D type pistols were imported into this country, so study up before buying.
Good books are Axis Pistols, Col. Whittington's Vol 2 and Gene Medlin and Jean Huon's Military Handguns of France, which covers the French contracts well.
I hope this helps a little.
Dean

Just for fun, here is French Pre-war contract 47666
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Here is late occupation 91515


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Forgot to add, the German ones will have serial number on the right frame and last two digits on the inside of the slide and on the barrel. The test proof should be visible on the barrel through the ejection port. Dean
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Forgot to add, the German ones will have serial number on the right frame and last two digits on the inside of the slide and on the barrel. The test proof should be visible on the barrel through the ejection port. Dean
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