[Guest]

Hey guys, I'm new here but a regular at some of the other gunboards around...I think this is best posted here but I'll give you links to the other sites I posted this one so you can see what was said already..

http://www.pre-ban.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=17894

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=277180

http://www.full-auto.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=18;t=003222

My friend got this gun from his grandfathers friend and wants to know if it is worth anything or how much it might be worth, also any info you can tell about it would be great. The mag seems to be rusted in the gun, I can't get it out but the action works and you can cock it and dry fire it....I don't even know what caliber it would be...

The holster is marked Franz Cobau Berlin 1935

You can see where the spare mag is held to the right of the pic but inside is a little pouch with some kind of tool...

Here is the tool...

Here is the spare mag

Here is the gun...there are a few markings on it...right on top of the reciever where the barrell starts is 1911, then the action has some really fancy intials (maybe the guns owner at one time?) DWA..the number 33 is on it in 2 places....the number7633 which I think is the serial number and then it has 3 fancy symbols that I can't really make out one looks like that tiger with his paws in the air like I've seen on a Dutch flag or something?

 

[Ron Smith]

Hi Bob, welcome to the forum. Your friend has a 1911 DWM police rework. The holster is a police holster also. It has what is refered to as an up stap. The strap is fastened at the bottom and comes up to slip over the stud. Military holsters have a down strap. Sewn to the flap and comes down to a buckle fastened to the side of the holster.

Are there any numbers or letters stamped on the front of the grip? If so what are they? Include any periods in between the numbers etc. The caliber is 9MM Parabellum or more commonly, 9MM Luger. The sad part is that it looks to be in pretty bad condition. Rust pitting from being stored in the holster. Remove the grips by removing the big screws at the bottom on either side. Be careful not to chip or crack them. Be gentle, they are 90 years old. Then see if you can get the magazine out. Try spraying alittle WD40 around the magazine and let it sit for awhile.

Ron

 

[lugerholsterrepair]

Ron Gives good advice...

A sad end to a once beautiful pistol...Value of the holster is around $200-$250.00. The tool if it is marked, $50-75 The rusted mag, Spring is probably shot $35-50, the pistol,depends on how much rust is inside $400-? If anyone disagrees I would welcome your take...Jerry Burney

 

[donmaus]

wolfpack,

Another question. Does this gun have a lower-case letter suffix just below the serial number on the front of the frame? Given it's condition, it may be hard to tell.

Don

 

[Guest]

No markings on the front of the grip, none at all. On the bottom of the barrell nearest the trigger guard the serial # is repeated 7633 and under that a lowercase d and under that is 8,82

 

[Guest]

I just looked at the tool and it is marked with a capital F on one side and a 1385 on the other.

 

[Ron Smith]

Bob, one thing I failed to mention. The small flat bar riveted on the left top side of the receiver is a sear safety. That's how I knew it was a police rework. Take the side plate off and see if there is a 1/4" hole drilled in the side of the frame. This was put there for a redundant magazine safety. If the safety is still in place, that's a plus. Most were removed. The side plate is the square plate on the left side with an oblong hump on it. Pull the toggle all the way back and hold it,if it won't lock back on it's own. Now swivel the lever on the lower left of the frame down. You should be able to lift the plate off. Reverse this procedure to reassemble.
BTW, Jerry is the resident holster expert. Just so you know what he said about the holster is pretty much on the money.

Ron

 

[Edward Tinker]

Bob, welcome to the forum, Ron and others have given you good advice for your friend.

Ed

 

[Guest]

quote:Originally posted by Weimar_Police

Bob, welcome to the forum, Ron and others have given you good advice for your friend.

Ed

...and I do appreciate it! Thanks!