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I am currently working on the new expanded all-color third edition of FN Browning Pistols, Side-arms that shaped World History. I started in January and it has already been a fantastic journey. I figured I would post some updates and neat information here as I went along...

I am aiming at getting this in production in December. Currently it is looking like 600+ pages but it is too early to tell.

Also for the first time, we are looking at doing a standard and a luxury, bonded leather, edition.

More soon.
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Is this edition going to include much more info on high powers? Thanks.
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Is this edition going to include much more info on high powers? Thanks.
Tim H.
Hi Tim,

That is all relative, as one can publish volumes on just the HP. Yes on prewar and wartime, no on the hundreds of postwar contracts that were produced.

I am not working on the HP chapter yet, but it will be a decent expansion.

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A couple of years ago I salvaged some FN boxes destined for the dumpster, lots of old documents. As expected 60 to 70% are just useless business memos and papers. Some nice blueprints, that was a bonus. At the time I had glanced at it all but never got to sort through it or catalog it until recently.

At the bottom of one of the boxes was a big stack of HP test targets... Three were used and numbered, the rest unused. The used ones are dated 1944, 1945, and 1946. That by itself would not mean much, except that all these targets are German (language) wartime targets! FN must have used them after liberation and stopped using these once they printed their own. SUPER FIND! I had never seen one, and this will now be shown in the book.
 

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Hi, Anthony, looking forward to get :) your new book, I am wondering if you have any new information about FN in Thailand ? I mining if any contracts was made between FN and Thailand government or Thailand police just using any guns they can find and mark them ? BRGS Alexey
 

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wow, this is awesome. There are so many areas that can be expanded on. I do hope that additional information can be obtained especially for contract guns. Or what about copies of shipping records so that one could look up specific serial numbers? As example there are times I run across a FN 1910 and its close to serial number that was in your previous books as being reported sold to Japan but we have no way to know. It would be great to have a data base like that if available.
 

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wow, this is awesome. There are so many areas that can be expanded on. I do hope that additional information can be obtained especially for contract guns. Or what about copies of shipping records so that one could look up specific serial numbers? As example there are times I run across a FN 1910 and its close to serial number that was in your previous books as being reported sold to Japan but we have no way to know. It would be great to have a data base like that if available.
Hi Sam, The Japanese orders are impossible to fully list as these were taken from commercial production, unlike Colt's where such groups were usually close in serial numbers, FN' were not and span hundreds of record pages. Further these were not direct sales to Japan but their main agent, which means further cross referencing those numbers for Japan. Massive amounts of work and paper, and would never be complete. Further there are the capture guns that would fall out and would still be legitimate pieces.

When you list "so many areas that can be expanded on", can you please be more specific? It would help me out!

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Or what about copies of shipping records ?
I had to smile with this question, as you can not imagine the scope of the records. Massive, massive in size, so many books and pages that it requires a lot of experience just to identify where and what is located. Imagine millions and millions of entries in hundreds of books. Impossible to replicate.
 

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Hi, Anthony, looking forward to get :) your new book, I am wondering if you have any new information about FN in Thailand ? I mining if any contracts was made between FN and Thailand government or Thailand police just using any guns they can find and mark them ? BRGS Alexey
I have not located much on direct contracts (except some small HP contracts). From what I researched indicate that the Thai guns were sourced from various places, including Browning U.S. commercial guns that found their way to Thailand.

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Anthony:
There appears to be a real interest with
collectors in trying
in verify FN 1910 pistols
with Japanese history. It appears this process is
very time consuming and can only be done
with access to the records, and knowledge on
how to read the records.

I am sure you receive many inquiries in
this area. Is there anyone else other
than you who does this research ? Thanks.


-Mike

 

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This feedback is helpful. The Japanese holster section will be greatly expanded.

With so much interest in the Japanese contract, I will make as much an effort to include as much as possible in it and will post a request for serial numbers on the forum.

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Anthony
 
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As ever, my passion remains the 1905 vest pocket. I hope to see as much as possible about this marvelous little pistol. No detail is too small to engage my interest. Still hoping to see confirmation (photos) of serial numbers above the 1,086,xxx range. I have never personally seen any, and I have recorded a lot of 1905s.

FN Browning Pistols is hands-down my favorite firearms reference text in a library of many excellent books. It has supplied me with countless hours of enjoyment. If there is a way to pre-order the upcoming edition, please let us know.
 

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Anthony, I wrote a large reply the other day but my computer went out and I was using a tablet and now I see it didn't post. or it disappeared, I have no idea.

My ideas were such as you mention the different inspectors, I know throughout the book you show examples of inspector marks but could you add a list of all known inspectors marks and locations of where they were placed? possibly even a list of unknown marks which I know over the years you mentioned they are not sure what they are for. This would be helpful in correctly identifying. as example, I do not think I ever came across an entire list of Finnish inspector marks.

another thought, you mentioned the different styles of grips could you add photos in that section of each style and then also add in how to tell reproductions from the originals?

Finally, while its not maybe needed for people such as myself who collect guns as collectibles, it may be helpful to reach out to others as a cross over to add a chapter on parts. what parts are inter-changeable ? such as the old style cam verses the new style cam on the 1935's are not, are the firing pins the same the same for the 1910 and 1922? can you switch out barrels of the the 1922 in 7.65 to .380? what about the parts in the baby browning to the FN1905/06? a section like that would be helpful to the shooting community and may make the book more appeasing to that crowd who really do not care about originality etc so much. but at the same time could help those of us who come across a gun and are trying to deterimine if its all original or has had parts added.

Those were just some of the thoughts along with the Japanese expansion, which I am glad to see you already started! Great!
 
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