[DaSwede]

i recently purchased a 98a 1920 marked reissue. it has a unit mark on top of the buttplate (PBd . 1013.) which i understand is a police school marking. the bolt take-down washer is also marked (JS 161.). any help on this marking would be much appreciated.
thanks
DaSwede

 

[Ron Smith]

Hi Rick,
Welcome to the forum. J.S. 161 (WWI military) translates to Infantry School weapon #161. Probably an Infantry school training rifle, later issued to the Brandenburg Havel police school. It's even possible that the Infantry school was used as a police school after WWI. And the rifle was re-stamped there.

Ron

 

[Edward Tinker]

Rick, I may move this to the General Discussion area, but first, let me WELCOME you to the forum. And of course, if you can post pictures of this rifle?

Ed

 

[donmaus]

I agree with Ron that the police mark is for the school at Brandenburg (Havel), which was the school for the Schutzpolizei of Berlin. The lack of a period between P and Bd indicates this carbine was marked after the issue of the Manual 40a marking instructions in February 1932.

Could we know the serial number of this carbine?

 

[Jan C Still]

Rick
Your rifle has the 1920 Reichswehr property stamp. If the JS 161. is "J.S.161." note the "." your rifle was issued to the Reishswehr Infantry School. For more information see figure 25, 26 and 27 in the post below.

SIMSON WAR SCHOOL LUGERS Jan C Still http://www.gunboards.com/luger/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=204

 

[DaSwede]

first, thanks to all for the excellent information. the marking is indeed "J.S. 161." the rifle is a erfurt 1917 serial number 5789 e. i am very limited for photos.
thanks again
rick