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I recently picked up a real nice black pigskin holster at a show. It is marked WaA 159. but I'm having trouble making out the makers name.
The letters 'EUNER' I see but it looks like there are 2 or 3 letters before and after these. Also the date is unclear I was told by the seller it was a 1941 (I think I can make out the '1' but not sure) my eyesight is not the greatest, can the date be established by the 'WaA 159? Any help with the maker's name and date I'd be very grateful
 

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Hi royusa,

I know of no direct tie between WaA number and date. WaA159 was used by E.G. Leuner. 1941 is a possiblity but the secret letter codes were mostly being used by that time. E.G. Leuner was assigned the code "bla". The transition from maker name to letter codes was not consistent between all the manufacturers.

Regards, Leon
 

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royusa

The pigskin holster is probably a late war issue as the materials started to dry up, ie ( cowhide) late in the war years.

1941 is a common year to find a pigskin holster so without seeing the holster you may be correct on your date.

Leather from cattle was the preferred material of the saddlery's to manufacture the P08 holster in Germany but you can also find goatskin in wide use in other country's that manufactured their own holsters for imported lugers.

Pigskin being a more supple material is the reason the date is hard to identify.
 

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Hi lugerlou,

I believe that the Germans started experimenting with alternate leather in 1941, possibly earlier. I have a pigskin P.38 hardshell holster that is dated 1941. I also have a pigskin P.38 softshell holster that is dated 1944. Pigskin was used on various leather goods until the end of the war but I have never seen them in large quantities.

Regards, Leon
 
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Hello Roy - I have a 1941 P08 hardshell hoster and it also has the E.G. LEUNER stamp followed by GmbH. The "G" may actually be the last letter in Leuner but it is run together with the mbH. Can you tell me how to identify Pigskin from Cowhide? I'm also not sure how to tell if the threading is linen or cotton.
Thanks,
Jay
 
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[Hello Leon - My 41 P08 holster is stamped with E.G LEUNER but has WaA170 stamped also. Is it possible he used more than one code? Jay]Originally posted by leondes

Hi royusa,

I know of no direct tie between WaA number and date. WaA159 was used by E.G. Leuner. 1941 is a possiblity but the secret letter codes were mostly being used by that time. E.G. Leuner was assigned the code "bla". The transition from maker name to letter codes was not consistent between all the manufacturers.

Regards, Leon
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Hello Leondes - I just checked the no. on my holster and it is clearly 170. However, I am still trying to determine if my holster is authentic or a repro. I don't have a clue what kind of numbering scheme repro's are manufactured with.

Jay
 

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Hi Jay,

One of the simple tests is to sniff the inside of the holster. If it smells like a new pair of shoes, it is almost certainly a modern production holster.

I might be able to help with some pictures.

Regards, Leon
 
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Leon & GT - It has been determined that my holster is a repro so ignore my input regarding the number 170. Thanks for the pics. Way different than mine. Also all the info on the back of my repro is from one single stamp which is apparently one of the obvious clue of un-authenticity.

Jay
 
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Hi Jay, No problem, It's a terribly hard way to learn, but there is no better way! It sticks with you forever... you never learn as much by looking as you do by buying! The best of it is, you know a hell of a lot more about it then you did just a short time ago!, ... Down the road, this little bit of knowledge should stand well for you...best of luck to you in the future..til...lat'r...GT
 
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