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I picked up this pistol a week ago, through a third party, from an elderly gentlemen in his 80's, who said he had taken it from a German Captain (Of what is unknown) at a Canadian Field Hospital in WW II. It certainly sounds right as the pistol was not registered & it had to be before I could take possession of it. This took months!

The pistol came with the Holster, 2 magazines, & original magazine loading tool/screwdriver. Details as follows;

Serial No: 3800 g
Chamber: 42
Toggle: byf
Left rear receiver stamped: P.08
All parts show: 00 including rear of left grip panel.
Original side plate missing. Side Plate shown is from Numrich/Gun Parts.
Acceptance stamp: Eagle over 135
Magazines:

1st. Excellent condition
Marked on left side; FXO - Eagle over 37 - P.08 (See photos)
2nd. Fair condition - Follower Broken
Marked: 9476 over y on bottom in very small size stamping. Eagle over 63.

Holster: Very Good Condition.
Stamped on back between belt loops: Nazi Eagle over W8A 182? (it's had to read, due to wear)

What do you think?


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I posted this pistol & holster, more to get info on the holster, as the pistol speaks for itself.

Can anyone tell me if I have read the markings on the back of the holster correctly? If not, what could they possibly be? Being new to collecting Lugers, I would really like to know if this holster is correctly attached/associated to the pistol?

Hope someone can help.
 

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"Holster: Very Good Condition.
Stamped on back between belt loops: Nazi Eagle over W8A 182? (it's had to read, due to wear)

What do you think?"

According to Benders book the WaA code of 182 was assigned to Frost & Jahnel, as to what do I think everything looks very good but your first photo's look very black or is it the lighting.

I see no reason to think that the luger in question would not be mated to your 42Byf luger, Frost and jahnel of Bresleau were holster manufactures for thr Third Reich Nazi's and the code of 182 fits the era of manufacture of your luger, as to be specific it has long been said that only a regimentally marked luger with proper holster also regimentally marked and the police stamped holster with serial number on side or tag is a true example.

With this in mind the war years of the Nazi's in particular 1942 were in full swing and I do not believe that the authorities were to fussy at that time. So period correct, military holster with military luger and you got youself a very desirable rig.

On a seperate note you should send me an email at [email protected] and we could discuss a few things that we may have to trade if you are interested.
 

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James;

Thanks for your prompt reply & info. I was not trying to match the holster specifically to my pistol. I just wanted to make sure that it was period correct & you have confirmed that.

You're right, my picture of the front of the holster is too dark, so I'm attaching a new picture which shows it's condition more clearly. This brings up the question as to what I can do to preserve it, without altering it in any way. Can I use a neutral color leather cream to condition it, without effecting the color or scuff marks on it? I would appreciate some guidance on this matter.

I will be e-mailing you seperately.
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quote:Originally posted by BJD SASS 2548LTG

James;

Thanks for your prompt reply & info. I was not trying to match the holster specifically to my pistol. I just wanted to make sure that it was period correct & you have confirmed that.

You're right, my picture of the front of the holster is too dark, so I'm attaching a new picture which shows it's condition more clearly. This brings up the question as to what I can do to preserve it, without altering it in any way. Can I use a neutral color leather cream to condition it, without effecting the color or scuff marks on it? I would appreciate some guidance on this matter.

I will be e-mailing you seperately.
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Applying a creme will darken the leather and do the opposite of preserving it by accelerating damage. Oils, creams, greases, waxes and soaps at best make the holster look less scuffed for a short time but usually darken and soften the leather, accelerating fibrous degeneration. Preservation is an environmental management task--keep it in stable temp and humidity, keep it clean, keep it out of UV light as much as possible, and don't stress it by storing a gun in it or hanging it from its belt loops. Do these things, and it will be one of the few un-messed with holsters and will be in excellent condition long after you have passed on. Good luck with your great collectible!
 

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Got my copy of Third Reich Lugers today & I found out that the loading tool for this pistol is marked E/655, because the book said it was supposed to be marked! I can see where this book is going to be a great investment!
 
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