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1916 DWM, SN 3649o, R.J.R.30./3.M.G.K./34.

A few years ago I purchased a unit marked Luger from a lady in Florida. The description was very vague and confused. It was her husbands Luger and he had obtained it during World War II. Its holster was found in her husbands fishing box. I sent my check and FFL and hoped for the best. There were complications with the local FFL dealer. When I finally pulled the holstered Luger out of the box I was not impressed. The 1911 dated holster was in two pieces.

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Figure 13. 1911 dated holster as it arrived from Florida in two pieces. It was complete with an C/scriptic leter stamped Imperial tool and an extra magazine (not shown)

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Figure 14. Front of 1911 dated holster.

The Luger was freckled and covered with patina in places. The area under the grips was swollen with rust.

I spent a several hours with a pointed brass rod, fine steel wool, and an oily rag. I had to card off the rust under the grips with a knife. At the end of the day the luger cleaned up beautifully leaving a very collectable unit marked 1916 dated Luger.

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Figure 15. The only serious damage was under the right grip where rust pits formed.

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Figure 16. The straw colored safety shows normal age spots for an 88 year old military Luger.

The holster was another matter. I sent it to Jerry Burney (lugerholsterrepair) and hoped for the best. I was not disappointed. These photographs show Jerry’s magic.

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Figure 17. The 1911 dated holster after Jerry’s excellent restoration.

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Figure 18. Restored 1911 dated holster, back side.

1916 DWM Lugers are reported in the 80 to 2482s serial range and were manufactured with a stock lug and hold open. The later production was manufactured with a relieved sear bar. P08 models are interspersed in the same serial range with LP08s’ during 1916. About 140,000 1916 dated P08s were manufactured. Less than 1 percent were unit marked.

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Figure 19. Left slant view of 1916 DWM, serial number 3649o. The serial number placement is exposed (military style). The sear bar is relieved.

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Figure 20. Top of 1916 DWM, serial number 3649o.

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Figure 21. Right side 1916 DWM, serial number 3649o. 1916 dated Lugers have a stock lug and were manufactured with a hold open.

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Figure 22. Right receiver and barrel of 1916 DWM, serial number 3649o. The barrel bears an Erfurt style proof.

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Figure 23. Front of frame and bottom of barrel of 1916 DWM, serial number 3649o. Note: the halo around the digits of the barrel serial number and lack of halo on the frame serial number. The barrel serial number is through the blue.

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Figure 24. 1916 DWM, serial number 3649o, details of matched grips.

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Figure 25. Front of 1916 DWM, serial number 3649o, showing its R.J.R.30./3.M.G.K./34. unit stamp. It signifies: Reserve Infantry Regiment 30, 3th Machine Gun Company, weapon number 34. The 30th Reserve Infantry Regiment was separate from the 30th Infantry Regiment during World War I. Its armorer stamped its Lugers separate from the 30 th Infantry Regiment and it had an independent history.

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Figure 26. 1916 DWM, serial number 3649o, complete rig with 1911 dated holster, Imperial stamped tool and extra magazine. This is the way the Luger left Germany at the end of World War II.

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Figure 27. Holster markings: Manufacturer hallmark dated 1911, B.A. V./1911, issuing clothing dept of the 5 th Army Corp and 1911 date, and T.B.5., Feldbackereikolonne des Train-Abteilung.

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Figure 28. Details of crown/scriptic letter stamped loading tool.

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Figure 29. Shown are: (all are marked to the 30 th Infantry Regiment or its reserve)
1914 DWM, serial number 468: 30.R.4.C.1.
1916 DWM, serial number 3649o: R.J.R.30./3.M.G.K./34.
1917 DWM, serial number 1874b: 30.R.3.M.G.K.13
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The World War I histories of the 30th Infantry Regiment and the 30th Reserve Infantry Regiment are covered in the 1900-1918 Lugers unit Markings section. PART 4/4 LUGERS OF J.R.30 & RES., HISTORY http://www.gunboards.com/luger/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2487

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Great presentation, Jan. We are ALL glad you are back! Also, a great demonstration of the artistry and workmanship of Jerry Burney, some of which I have seen personally with several of my holsters! One minor question: I've been told that DWM loading tools were unproofed, only Erfurt tools were proofed. Is this true or also subject to the variations of the wartime atmosphere?

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Usually (the few that I have examined), DWM rigs that have returned from World War I have unmarked tools and Erfurt rigs that have returned from World War I have Imperial Army stamped tools. However, this is not true every time. The 1916 DWM rig discussed above returned from World War II.

In the period between Wars an Imperial Luger could potentially be mated with holsters and tools ranging from Imperial surplus, Weimar, Nazi, to World War II manufacture. This Luger rig is a vet bring back from World War II and I would speculate that this Luger rig left World War I mated to the holster and tool that it returned to the U.S. with, at the end of World War II.
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