[Guest]

I am trying to identify this pistol. It is a DMW artilliary model with a chamber inscription of 1915. All serial numbers are 53 except one on the left side near the barrell that is 453. On the opposite side there are three symbols, each with a crown on top, followed by a German eagle. The toggle knobs are serrated and the thumb safety is labeled Gesichert. Grips are checkered Walnut. Blueing looks good although there are some tiny rough spots -possibly rust? It has the leather case with the tools. I have fired the weapon approx. 10 times. Any help you can provide for positive id and value are much appreciated.
Many thanks, Paul

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[refurb]

Everything you described is ok, except the magazine. The base appears to be made out of metal,it should be wood. Check out the backside of the grips. There should be a serial number on them. It would help a lot if you could take some closeups of the proof marks,serial numbers. And take some closeups of the holster and accessories.

 

[Olefogey]

Paul,
Welcome to the Forum. It looks like you have a nice 1915 DWM Artillery. A few questions,...What is the number stamped on the frame under the barrel? Does it have a small script letter under it? The pistol came originally with a wood bottom magazine numbered to the gun and the numbers would probably have run along the length of the mag bottom instead of crosswise. They would be larger also. What is the number on your aluminum? based mag? any "+" signs or Waffenamts? From your pictures, I would hazard a guess of about$1500 to $2000. I'm sure other members will tell me I'm wrong. You really need better pics to determine a value.

Dave

 

[Guest]

Thanks very much to both of you gentlemen for your help. I am sending more pics, hopefully these closeups will help. Regarding your specific questions:
1. The base of the magazine appears to be cast aluminum with several numbers and possibly Waffenament. Just below the symbol there are very small numbers ,either 54 or 154.
2. I removed the wood grips and there are no numbers on the back.
3. The numbers stamped on the frame under the barrel are 453 with a small cursef a and below that looks like 8,82.
I hope these pics will help.
Thanks, Paul

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[refurb]

Your rear sight is set up for fine tuning, which requires a spanner wrench. And this is a plus. Take a look under the leaf sight you should find some more serial numbers and markings. It would be intersting to know what they are. I will leave the rest for the forum to commet on. Particuarly the holster. Nice artillery by the way.

 

[taudelt]

Paul....... Let me add my WELCOME to the Board. You have a really good looking 1915 Arty..... The mag that is in it is very interesting. The S/42 means it was a Mauser replacement item and the W/154 acceptance stamp dates it to 1935. The "2" would indicate that the German Police "acquired" it someplace along the way as that's how they accepted mags.....with the numbers 1 or 2 or sometimes 3. Has no connection with your DWM as it would have had a wood bottom mag when it was born. NICE gun..........

 

[Guest]

It appears there are numbers or sybols under the leaf sight, however I can't read them even with the sight fully elevated and I don't know how to remove it. If I have any luck, I'll post it. Thanks much

 

[Guest]

Don't attempt to disassemble the rear sight. Use a flashlight to shine under the sight to read the numbers found there. You may have to first clean the area with a Q-Tip in order to read the numbers.
The numbers shown under the sight are 2769, and the serial number of the pistol is 669ns (no suffix). In all probability the last two digits of the number found under your rear sight will be 53.

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[refurb]

I have a 1917 DWM artillery that has no serial numbers on the grips. I belive the grips on my arty are period filed replacement grips. Forum members may not agree on my opinion. But yours could be field replacement grips too. Also the (halo) around the barrel serial numbers are a nice touch that collectors like to see. Since no one has said anything about the holster yet. I think its a period orginal with unit markings on the inside of the flap. Although I cant make it out clearly. I think you have a Fusilier (artillery) regimental 83 marked holster. If so, vary vary nice.