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Hi everybody,

Here I am sharing some pictures of this old lady who saw a lot of action during the World War I. Let me present you my Roth-Steyr M7 (or Repetierpistole 1907), serial number 6631, made by the Waffenfabrik Steyr. Note that the gun does not have the visible pin on the right side, which is typical of early production guns. The M7 is marked "DR 15 182" on the right grip´s disc, which means 15th Dragoon Regiment, weapon number 182.

I won´t repeat the info that Mr. Still already posted here on another thread, but I was fortunated enough to track its battle story, which is very interesting. At this point I´d like to thank the Members of this forum as well Mr. Glenn Jewison from the Austro-Hungarian Army Forum (http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/index.htm ).

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The complete name of the unit was Dragoner Regiment Erzherzog Joseph (Archduke Joseph) Nr 15 and the regimental Headquarter before the War was Wiener-Neustadt. until the late summer of 1916 Dragonerregiment Erzherzog Joseph Nr.15 was an integral part of the 21st Cavalry Brigade of the 4th Cavalry Division. As usch it was deployed exclusively on the Galician front against the Russian Army. It took part in the great cavalry battle at Jarowslawice on the 21st of August 1914 when it came into action against the Russian 10th Cavalry Division.

It saw further action at Zloczów from the 26th to 28 August, the Gnila Lipa on the 29th and 30th August, Rawa-Ruska - Lemberg from 6th to the 11th of September followed by the withdrawal behind the River San and further to the River Dunajec. It advanced to the San again from 4th to 12th October and at Przemysl from the 10th Oct to 4th November. Following the action at Lawrów the division withdrew to the Carpathian Mountains, saw further fighting on the upper Dunajec and at the battle of Limanowa-Lapanów in the first two weeks of December 1914.


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The regiment spent the winter of 1914/15 in the Carpathian Mountains and then took part in the Gorlice-Tarnów offensive in May, the engagemant at Sanok and the pursuit of the Russian forces to the East seeing fighting at Luck and at Rowno in the late summer. It remained on the Southern Sector of the Eastern Front throughout the remainder of 1915 and the first part of 1916.


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At some stage either in late 1916 or early 1917 the the 15th Dragoons were detached from the 21st Cavalry Brigade and became utilised as Divisional Cavalry Squadrons. A summer 1918 Order of battle shows squadrons under command of the following divisions:

1. Schwadron - 25th Infantry Division
2. Schwadron - 4th Infantry Division
3. Schwadron - 13th Schützen Division
4. Schwadron - 46th Schützen Division

Wartime Regimental Commanders:

Oberstleutnant/Oberst Otto Graf von Huyn: Dec 1910- Sep 1914
Oberstleutnant/Oberst Alfred Brósch Edler von Fohraheim: Sep 14-Dec 17
Oberstleutnant/Oberst Franz Neusser: Dec 17 - Nov 18

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(Dragoon from the Austrian-Hungarian Army c. 1910)

Hope you have enjoyed this short presentation.

Douglas.
 

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Douglas,
Great write up on your Roth Steyr. I have a couple of questions. First, I see your serial number is 6631 and it has no pin visible on the right side of the frame. My Roth Steyr is serial number 6782 and has the pin visible. Thats only 150 pistols apart. I wonder if the change took place somwhere in there? The reason I say that is mine has a 1936 rebuild-reissue proof stamped over the old 1909 stamp. I am wondering if the frame was updated on mine? We might also have a case of old and new parts use over-lapping.
Second question. I can't get the Austro-Hungarian Army forum to open. Do you know if it is still part of their site? My Roth Steyr is unit marked "I R 15" with a weapon number of 288. I am trying to find out some information on this unit which I think is the Infanterieregimentes Nr 15.
Thanks for any information, these are great pistols and being unit marked is a plus to any collector.
Dean Gizzi
 

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Hi Dean,

Sorry for took so long to answer you. However I´ve seen that you already had your answers on another topic. Sorry for that my friend.

Personally, I think that that change concerning the side pin happened somewhere between our pistols. I don´t think that yours has a replacement part. But it´s also possible. Did you check if it bears the "K" letter (code to the Steyr plant)?

Concerning the the unit mark, the most probable unit would be "Infanterie Regiment 15th".

The site for the Austro-Hungarian forum is:
http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/index.htm

All the best.

Douglas.
 

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Douglas,
Thanks for the info. If you get a chance, look under "German: Foreign MFG, Pistols and Holsters" heading on this forum. I posted more photos of my Roth Steyr and some info on the rebuild.
I was able to get on the Austro-Hungarian Forum and no luck yet on any battle history. I will post anything I receive on the unit.
Dean
 
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